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> You think you do, but you don't. Nailed it. People want patched versions of the same RTS. AoE4 came out a few years ago as an IMO fantastic RTS which smoothe

> You think you do, but you don't. Nailed it. People want patched versions of the same RTS. AoE4 came out a few years ago as an IMO fantastic RTS which smoothed over many of the idiosyncrasies of AoE2. From a multiplayer perspective, it was doomed from the start, for not being AoE2. I couldn't even convince my friends to play it with me. (Everyone is still playing AoE2, and expansions + patches are still regular)

itake 12d ago
Blizzard released sc2 and people Happily switched over. I think at sc2 peak, maybe 10% still played sc1 and 90% played sc2
- mococa 12d ago
  I think I have over 5000 hours on SC2, played since day 0 until fewer years ago.
- mococa 12d ago
  SC1 was full of pathfinding bugs
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jwitthuhn 12d ago
That is a quote from the lead developer of WoW about how everyone asking for classic wow thought they wanted it but wouldn't actually play it. Then blizzard made classic wow and it was a huge hit.
- Ntrails 12d ago
  They basically only did it because the private servers had enough of a userbase that they felt obliged to get that money for themselves afaict
  - FLeXMurphy 12d ago
    I wonder how ICCup was able to stay online for so long? Hosted out of Russia?
  - kridsdale1 12d ago
    Product Market Fit rarely flatters the egos of visionary product managers.
    - thedrexster 12d ago
      ^^ i think this is pretty fucking insightful, yeah
    - red-iron-pine 12d ago
      you can't be the next steve jobs without some acrimonious counterpoint that shows unique and true vision angels eat that shit up. see also: theranos, et al
zaptheimpaler 12d ago
BTW AoE4 is nowhere near doomed, i play AoE4 multiplayer regularly and hear this often. AoE4 has about half the number of daily players (12-15K) that AoE2 does, but it’s easily enough to play multiplayer. It also gets regular DLCs and updates and has had a stable playerbase for years now. Basically its less popular and many AoE2 players will never switch, but it’s an active game.

itake 12d ago

Blizzard released sc2 and people Happily switched over. I think at sc2 peak, maybe 10% still played sc1 and 90% played sc2

mococa 12d ago
I think I have over 5000 hours on SC2, played since day 0 until fewer years ago.
mococa 12d ago
SC1 was full of pathfinding bugs

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jwitthuhn 12d ago

That is a quote from the lead developer of WoW about how everyone asking for classic wow thought they wanted it but wouldn't actually play it. Then blizzard made classic wow and it was a huge hit.

Ntrails 12d ago
They basically only did it because the private servers had enough of a userbase that they felt obliged to get that money for themselves afaict
- FLeXMurphy 12d ago
  I wonder how ICCup was able to stay online for so long? Hosted out of Russia?
- kridsdale1 12d ago
  Product Market Fit rarely flatters the egos of visionary product managers.
  - thedrexster 12d ago
    ^^ i think this is pretty fucking insightful, yeah
  - red-iron-pine 12d ago
    you can't be the next steve jobs without some acrimonious counterpoint that shows unique and true vision angels eat that shit up. see also: theranos, et al

zaptheimpaler 12d ago

BTW AoE4 is nowhere near doomed, i play AoE4 multiplayer regularly and hear this often. AoE4 has about half the number of daily players (12-15K) that AoE2 does, but it’s easily enough to play multiplayer. It also gets regular DLCs and updates and has had a stable playerbase for years now. Basically its less popular and many AoE2 players will never switch, but it’s an active game.