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Was there something wrong with how they are currently written or do they just want the badge that says they converted to Rust?
by hk1337 12d ago
Was there something wrong with how they are currently written or do they just want the badge that says they converted to Rust?
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 11d agoLicense. GNU is copyleft and the new thing is permissive. We might see a fracture open slowly. For me, even AGPL is not enough
- zahlman 11d agoOnce they have a more permissive license, cui bono?
- pjmlp 11d agoBusinesses. There is a reason all FOSS OS alternatives for embedded systems like Zephyr, NuttX, FreeRTOS, IDF, Arduino,... are not GPL based, while Google has purged Android and ChromeOS from it, with the Linux kernel being the only GPL piece left.
- 1718627440 11d ago> Arduino,... are not GPL based Arduino is "just" repacked gcc in a nutshell, so it is GPL-based.
- pjmlp 11d agoYou need more than a compiler, so it is complicated, and not pure GPL, https://support.arduino.cc/hc/en-us/articles/4415094490770-Licensing-for-products-based-on-Arduino https://support.arduino.cc/hc/en-us/articles/4415094490770-L...
- 1718627440 11d agoI was only thinking about the software, yes. Also a lot of the "Arduino" libraries are not really owned by Arduino, even if they like to attach themself to it, so while it is true what they write about different licenses of the libraries, this what not what I considered to be part of Arduino itself. I was only thinking of the buildtools they release. While these are board specific, these are often "just" a fork of gcc, board-specific linker/image builders, a flasher and the Arduino-build system. Only the latter is what they actually created (arguable not even that: https://arduinohistory.github.io/ https://arduinohistory.github.io/).
- Flimm 11d agoNeither. They basically see Rust as the future. They want to be able to attract young contributors and to hire young employees who are excited about Rust and who want the safety features. Bear in mind, the average age of the Linux developer is increasing. They also see technical benefits in Rust. And they are increasing test coverage of both the Rust tools and the tools written in C, IIRC. My source is this interview with the VP of Engineering at Canonical on this topic: https://corrode.dev/podcast/s05e05-canonical/ https://corrode.dev/podcast/s05e05-canonical/
- uecker 11d agoIn reality, I think it much more about taking more control over parts of the ecosystem - the license change is part of it, but also getting rid of the old stubborn communities and maintainers.
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- pjmlp 11d agoInterestingly enough, young developers have no issues writing C or C++ when it comes to game development, Pebble, Arduino or ESP-32 coding.
- collinfunk 11d ago