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These sorts of things always talk about progressive rendering. Who actually likes progressive decoding? Like...what year is it? I don't want an image to appear

These sorts of things always talk about progressive rendering. Who actually likes progressive decoding? Like...what year is it? I don't want an image to appear in any form until its loaded. I never need to see a blurry placeholder, and there is zero value in that even with bad connections, but the situation is farcical when everyone has ultra-fast connections everywhere. This is similar to pages that use custom fonts but will happily show the text as quickly as it can, and then suddenly restyle/relayout the page when the custom font loads (Flash of Unstyled Text - FOUT). It looks terrible and is jarring. Progressive rendered images are the same.

jaffathecake 12d ago
I disagree with this. If I'm in a poor connectivity situation, a preview can help me quickly decide if an image is worth waiting for. I'm not talking about blurhash here - those are 'cute' at best. I'm talking about previews that let me determine the subject of an image. I was on a train recently and an image preview X delivered to me was enough for me to tell that the image was a particular meme format, and thanks to context, I knew enough about the image, and didn't bother waiting for it to load.
- llm_nerd 12d ago
  You've left some 36 comments on this submission (which is honestly weird as HN usually rate limits to avoid that sort of aggressive participation), and your comments seem extremely...cherry picked. In another comment you dismissed the bandwidth savings of JXL because connections are so fast that eh, who cares, and in this case you herald the importance of progressive rendering because connections are so slow. Are you the author of the submission? Literally never seen someone so motivated in a conversation before.
  - jaffathecake 12d ago
    I dismissed the bandwidth savings in another comment because the increased decode time undid the benefit. I am not the author of the submission. I have experience in web performance, and my comments come from that experience.

jaffathecake 12d ago

I disagree with this. If I'm in a poor connectivity situation, a preview can help me quickly decide if an image is worth waiting for. I'm not talking about blurhash here - those are 'cute' at best. I'm talking about previews that let me determine the subject of an image. I was on a train recently and an image preview X delivered to me was enough for me to tell that the image was a particular meme format, and thanks to context, I knew enough about the image, and didn't bother waiting for it to load.

llm_nerd 12d ago
You've left some 36 comments on this submission (which is honestly weird as HN usually rate limits to avoid that sort of aggressive participation), and your comments seem extremely...cherry picked. In another comment you dismissed the bandwidth savings of JXL because connections are so fast that eh, who cares, and in this case you herald the importance of progressive rendering because connections are so slow. Are you the author of the submission? Literally never seen someone so motivated in a conversation before.
- jaffathecake 12d ago
  I dismissed the bandwidth savings in another comment because the increased decode time undid the benefit. I am not the author of the submission. I have experience in web performance, and my comments come from that experience.