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https://mirekrusin.com/cave https://mirekrusin.com/cave Palantir like system – data, ontology, logic, actions, security, operational workflows – packaged as si

https://mirekrusin.com/cave https://mirekrusin.com/cave Palantir like system – data, ontology, logic, actions, security, operational workflows – packaged as single cli, local first, git friendly text .cave files and sqlite3 instead of k8s-style complexity blowup. Working on the weekends. Next is probably extension of the language to integrate something like https://github.com/mirek/ast https://github.com/mirek/ast for arbitrary ast traversals/modification/generation/better integration with external world - other file types, but ast concept goes further than that, ie. filesystem is also ast, traversal is ast/xpath like walk. Public domain on all my recent work.

EngineChaos 12d ago
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tonyoconnell 12d ago
It's a beautiful language
- mirekrusin 12d ago
  Thank you, it was inspired by caveman skill hence the name :) It's like formalized caveman. I think there is still some work to make it better/more intuitive/easier.
smccabe0 12d ago
`--as-of` might be the most important feature in your codebase. Temporality of relationships is way way more important than I thought when I first started down the path of modeling relational data in agentic systems. Sometimes knowing why or why not at a glance can be the difference between spending another $50 on tokens retreading old ground. This is very cool, and I will probably discard my handrolled version in favor of your much more robust solution. Have you considered allowing annotation of why something changed as part of a tx?
aerodexis 12d ago
Interesting project. I've been thinking about the need for something similar at work when a coworker thought it was a good idea to explode our design documents by having an AI slop out tens of pages of additional design w/ zero consideration of modeling of the human-derived ground-truth or knowledge ontology. A humble suggestion is to consider having this become an annotation layer on top of existing code or documentation.
kchnkrml 10d ago
Looks very interesting! Can you elaborate a bit on your view of this comparing against some ontology tool/system based on a turtle (ttl) file, which is similarly (human) readable? Is it mostly the history/contradiction/probability capabilities?

EngineChaos 12d ago

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tonyoconnell 12d ago

It's a beautiful language

mirekrusin 12d ago
Thank you, it was inspired by caveman skill hence the name :) It's like formalized caveman. I think there is still some work to make it better/more intuitive/easier.

smccabe0 12d ago

`--as-of` might be the most important feature in your codebase. Temporality of relationships is way way more important than I thought when I first started down the path of modeling relational data in agentic systems. Sometimes knowing why or why not at a glance can be the difference between spending another $50 on tokens retreading old ground. This is very cool, and I will probably discard my handrolled version in favor of your much more robust solution. Have you considered allowing annotation of why something changed as part of a tx?

aerodexis 12d ago

Interesting project. I've been thinking about the need for something similar at work when a coworker thought it was a good idea to explode our design documents by having an AI slop out tens of pages of additional design w/ zero consideration of modeling of the human-derived ground-truth or knowledge ontology. A humble suggestion is to consider having this become an annotation layer on top of existing code or documentation.

kchnkrml 10d ago

Looks very interesting! Can you elaborate a bit on your view of this comparing against some ontology tool/system based on a turtle (ttl) file, which is similarly (human) readable? Is it mostly the history/contradiction/probability capabilities?