> Your and my relation with our consumer lenders has nothing to do with Nvidia's relationship with OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAIwhateverthefuck. Yes, but your

> Your and my relation with our consumer lenders has nothing to do with Nvidia's relationship with OpenAI, Anthropic and SpaceXAIwhateverthefuck. Yes, but your original comment said that Apple's financing "isn't circular financing in a problematic way". It might not be the classic way of "circular" financing but it is highly problematic. And I'd even go as far as to saying that, yes it is a form of circular financing, because Apple hands you money to spend that money on a product they make at much less cost than it costs you on paper and, that's the more important thing, serves as an entrypoint into their highly effective walled garden called App Store.