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I have non concerns about having a built in button to phone emergency services. I don’t even mind if it auto rings in a crash. I’m even happy to provide positio

I have non concerns about having a built in button to phone emergency services. I don’t even mind if it auto rings in a crash. I’m even happy to provide position to the emergency service in the event of dialing them. Manufacturers use this capacity as an excuse to push more adtech penny and dime data abuse, knowing half the world will blame the government.

fn-mote 1mo ago
Your cell phone could easily call for help in a crash without the car being involved at all.
- Loughla 1mo ago
  Not if I'm unconscious?
  - Chaosvex 1mo ago
    iPhones actually can. I'm guessing some Androids have an equivalent.
    - fn-mote 1mo ago
      Apple Watch for sure. It seems like you have been in an accident. Hit this button to cancel or EMS will be called.
  - aceazzameen 1mo ago
    Other drivers will phone it in. This isn't a concern for me at all, but I suppose it could be if you lived in a low population area.
    - b0rtb0rt 1mo ago
      other drivers will assume someone else already called it in and drive past
      - 1over137 1mo ago
        Good god thats a bleak thought, where do you live that people behave like that?!
        hdgvhicv 1mo ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
    - hdgvhicv 1mo ago
      Not when you go off the side into a ditch
  - Retric 1mo ago
    From a cellphone’s perspective a crash = extreme acceleration with different vectors vs a dropped phone, they can also listen for broken glass etc. So even with GPS off that’s detectable. iPhone 14+ and Android 12+ https://en.androidsis.com/How-to-activate-automatic-accident-and-emergency-alerts-on-Android/ https://en.androidsis.com/How-to-activate-automatic-accident...
    - luz666 1mo ago
      Interesting info/link, thanks for sharing. Generally I read your comment that a dropped phone only hits the floor once, therefore there is only one vector and the car always overturns/flips/turns and therefore there are multiple vectors measurable in the car? I am not convinced yet, it might be possible without GPS, at least to some degree of error (false positives and false negatives). The info in the link requires GPS to be switched on. hmm
gregglain 1mo ago
I'll take the risk.

fn-mote 1mo ago

Your cell phone could easily call for help in a crash without the car being involved at all.

Loughla 1mo ago
Not if I'm unconscious?
- Chaosvex 1mo ago
  iPhones actually can. I'm guessing some Androids have an equivalent.
  - fn-mote 1mo ago
    Apple Watch for sure. It seems like you have been in an accident. Hit this button to cancel or EMS will be called.
- aceazzameen 1mo ago
  Other drivers will phone it in. This isn't a concern for me at all, but I suppose it could be if you lived in a low population area.
  - b0rtb0rt 1mo ago
    other drivers will assume someone else already called it in and drive past
    - 1over137 1mo ago
      Good god thats a bleak thought, where do you live that people behave like that?!
      - hdgvhicv 1mo ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect
  - hdgvhicv 1mo ago
    Not when you go off the side into a ditch
- Retric 1mo ago
  From a cellphone’s perspective a crash = extreme acceleration with different vectors vs a dropped phone, they can also listen for broken glass etc. So even with GPS off that’s detectable. iPhone 14+ and Android 12+ https://en.androidsis.com/How-to-activate-automatic-accident-and-emergency-alerts-on-Android/ https://en.androidsis.com/How-to-activate-automatic-accident...
  - luz666 1mo ago
    Interesting info/link, thanks for sharing. Generally I read your comment that a dropped phone only hits the floor once, therefore there is only one vector and the car always overturns/flips/turns and therefore there are multiple vectors measurable in the car? I am not convinced yet, it might be possible without GPS, at least to some degree of error (false positives and false negatives). The info in the link requires GPS to be switched on. hmm

gregglain 1mo ago

I'll take the risk.