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Donald Trump rejects calls from tech bosses for AI slowdown

17 points by higginsniggins 22d ago

Grimblewald 22d ago
dont worry, they'll remember the bribe next time and it'll be through by next tuesday.
Finnucane 22d ago
The tech bosses have no say in the matter?
- wolvoleo 22d ago
  I wouldn't want industry leaders to decide laws, that's what democracy is for. It's normal that they can voice their points of view, and it's normal for a government to decide otherwise for good reasons. Having said that, these are not normal times of course. Normally a government would have its own subject matter experts. However with Trump as a self-proclaimed expert on everything this isn't really working. In this particular case his point 'China would use the time to catch up' isn't really a bad one because that is exactly what would happen. I'm just not really sure that that would be such a bad thing. Right now China is making a lot of open models that are good for everyone, while American models are mostly closed for rent-seeking purposes. Also, I don't see science as a race. But more as a collaboration. Note: I'm not a Trump fan at all, just to make that clear. But I wouldn't dismiss a point just because he made it. And I'm not a fan of the Big-AI leaders either to be honest.
MiroslavPokorny 22d ago
I really dont understand Donald. I think its obvious as an old man, his time is running low. Surely a man of his age should realise you cant cheat the grimreaper, and even the reaper doesnt accept bribes.
- wolvoleo 22d ago
  I'm kinda surprised the super rich haven't found a way to prolong life somehow. I would have expected that to happen. But nature seems to have this pretty heavily locked down (I guess because evolution doesn't work without it)
  - MiroslavPokorny 22d ago
    Being rich doesnt mean one is intelligent.
    - wolvoleo 22d ago
      No but being rich does mean one can hire a lot of intelligent people to figure it out for them. A LOT. The thing is, if someone figures out something against aging, you can bet it will be made incredibly expensive. After all, the planet will have a massive problem if everyone starts using it. Basically every problem we have on this world would increase massively, from global warming to housing, energy, pollution, traffic. So it will be limited to the few and in our society that means the most wealthy (not that I agree with that but it is what it is). So they would probably keep it secret and expensive, but they'd also be very motivated to invest in it because it would be insanely profitable. And they would benefit personally by living longer obviously. I'm sure those people with hundreds of billions in the bank think about these things. I'm pretty sure someone like Elon Musk would eventually invest in that. Right now he's probably a bit too young to worry about ageing. But he's someone who believes in technology shaping the future of humanity. And he's got the money to try.
      - MiroslavPokorny 22d ago
        Are you sure ? I guess that would explain Donald, recent success in international affairs. Heres another secret, look around you, more competition doesnt bring prices down.
        wolvoleo 22d ago
        I don't understand what this has to do with the point I'm making. I'm not saying that rich people are smart or that being smart makes you rich. I think it's more a focus on money at all costs. However I'm saying I'm surprised they haven't used that wealth to make smart people figure out a way to live forever for themselves. Or maybe they did try but failed. It won't come to us normal people, I'm very sure of that.

Grimblewald 22d ago

dont worry, they'll remember the bribe next time and it'll be through by next tuesday.

Finnucane 22d ago

The tech bosses have no say in the matter?

wolvoleo 22d ago
I wouldn't want industry leaders to decide laws, that's what democracy is for. It's normal that they can voice their points of view, and it's normal for a government to decide otherwise for good reasons. Having said that, these are not normal times of course. Normally a government would have its own subject matter experts. However with Trump as a self-proclaimed expert on everything this isn't really working. In this particular case his point 'China would use the time to catch up' isn't really a bad one because that is exactly what would happen. I'm just not really sure that that would be such a bad thing. Right now China is making a lot of open models that are good for everyone, while American models are mostly closed for rent-seeking purposes. Also, I don't see science as a race. But more as a collaboration. Note: I'm not a Trump fan at all, just to make that clear. But I wouldn't dismiss a point just because he made it. And I'm not a fan of the Big-AI leaders either to be honest.

MiroslavPokorny 22d ago

I really dont understand Donald. I think its obvious as an old man, his time is running low. Surely a man of his age should realise you cant cheat the grimreaper, and even the reaper doesnt accept bribes.

wolvoleo 22d ago
I'm kinda surprised the super rich haven't found a way to prolong life somehow. I would have expected that to happen. But nature seems to have this pretty heavily locked down (I guess because evolution doesn't work without it)
- MiroslavPokorny 22d ago
  Being rich doesnt mean one is intelligent.
  - wolvoleo 22d ago
    No but being rich does mean one can hire a lot of intelligent people to figure it out for them. A LOT. The thing is, if someone figures out something against aging, you can bet it will be made incredibly expensive. After all, the planet will have a massive problem if everyone starts using it. Basically every problem we have on this world would increase massively, from global warming to housing, energy, pollution, traffic. So it will be limited to the few and in our society that means the most wealthy (not that I agree with that but it is what it is). So they would probably keep it secret and expensive, but they'd also be very motivated to invest in it because it would be insanely profitable. And they would benefit personally by living longer obviously. I'm sure those people with hundreds of billions in the bank think about these things. I'm pretty sure someone like Elon Musk would eventually invest in that. Right now he's probably a bit too young to worry about ageing. But he's someone who believes in technology shaping the future of humanity. And he's got the money to try.
    - MiroslavPokorny 22d ago
      Are you sure ? I guess that would explain Donald, recent success in international affairs. Heres another secret, look around you, more competition doesnt bring prices down.
      - wolvoleo 22d ago
        I don't understand what this has to do with the point I'm making. I'm not saying that rich people are smart or that being smart makes you rich. I think it's more a focus on money at all costs. However I'm saying I'm surprised they haven't used that wealth to make smart people figure out a way to live forever for themselves. Or maybe they did try but failed. It won't come to us normal people, I'm very sure of that.