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Things can be hauled just fine in an estate, saloon, or even a hatchback. European camper vans are regularly hauled by tiny Golfs or Polos with barely a litre o

Things can be hauled just fine in an estate, saloon, or even a hatchback. European camper vans are regularly hauled by tiny Golfs or Polos with barely a litre of engine displacement and a hundred kilowatts of power. Americans just buy much bigger vehicles than necessary.

snypher 13d ago
>Big trucks can be a necessity depending on what you do for a living/your way of life. You might have missed this part. My round bales are 1000kg, and the field gets wet. How do I move the goats? How do I pull someone out of that ditch where the sign says 15mph but every winter they slide through my fence?
- well_ackshually 13d ago
  With anything but an F350. How did farmers do anything before Ford saved them with the worst trucks to ever exist, truly a wonder.
- cr3ative 13d ago
  A tractor, probably.
  - twineorwire 13d ago
    Grew up in farm country and on a (hobby) cattle farm, can confirm, the best tool for between two and three[1] of those is a tractor. Though yes obviously if you have an actual working farm, in any capacity, you need a truck that can tow trailers with decent weight on them. I have noticed truck ownership patterns vary with region, which may be why some people bristle at the notion that vanity-driven truck ownership is common. It's extremely common in the Midwest, city suburbs are full of people who bought an expensive truck either because that's the purchase that'll get them positive attention from their peers at work or in their friend group (and because other options for show-off cars might get them ribbing instead of kudos) or for aspirations they'll never fulfill ("yeah, I'll totally tow a boat to the lake every weekend! Maybe I'll even buy a fifth-wheel camper!" then they end up doing it like twice a year and never buy the camper). It's less common in (at least large parts of) the Northeast. The "I have a nice car people may comment positively on or otherwise approve of" purchases here swing more Volvo and Audi and such, even out in what the locals consider the "country" (it's... not, LOL). [1] Where are the goats being hauled? Just on your property, between fields? To somewhere farther away? On roads? How far on roads? Truck still might be the wrong tool, or at least not better.
- adaml_623 13d ago
  If you are really a farmer then I would expect you to have more sense than defending all the people who drive to their office job in their massive trucks. Yes people on farms need big vehicles. We're not talking about them.
TitaRusell 13d ago
My mother has rheumatics and she was looking at an SUV for her back. It gets more difficult for old people to climb into a tiny car- and for old people a car is a lifeline. Lots of big cars are driven by small old ladies and it has nothing to do with vanity.
- delta_p_delta_x 12d ago
  The solution is not an SUV, but an MPV. In almost no situation are pickup trucks, SUVs, or even a crossover the correct kinds of vehicle.
dofm 12d ago
Yep. If you are under 30 in the UK and you have more possessions than can fit in one trip in a Fiesta with the seats down, you have too much stuff.

snypher 13d ago

>Big trucks can be a necessity depending on what you do for a living/your way of life. You might have missed this part. My round bales are 1000kg, and the field gets wet. How do I move the goats? How do I pull someone out of that ditch where the sign says 15mph but every winter they slide through my fence?

well_ackshually 13d ago
With anything but an F350. How did farmers do anything before Ford saved them with the worst trucks to ever exist, truly a wonder.
cr3ative 13d ago
A tractor, probably.
- twineorwire 13d ago
  Grew up in farm country and on a (hobby) cattle farm, can confirm, the best tool for between two and three[1] of those is a tractor. Though yes obviously if you have an actual working farm, in any capacity, you need a truck that can tow trailers with decent weight on them. I have noticed truck ownership patterns vary with region, which may be why some people bristle at the notion that vanity-driven truck ownership is common. It's extremely common in the Midwest, city suburbs are full of people who bought an expensive truck either because that's the purchase that'll get them positive attention from their peers at work or in their friend group (and because other options for show-off cars might get them ribbing instead of kudos) or for aspirations they'll never fulfill ("yeah, I'll totally tow a boat to the lake every weekend! Maybe I'll even buy a fifth-wheel camper!" then they end up doing it like twice a year and never buy the camper). It's less common in (at least large parts of) the Northeast. The "I have a nice car people may comment positively on or otherwise approve of" purchases here swing more Volvo and Audi and such, even out in what the locals consider the "country" (it's... not, LOL). [1] Where are the goats being hauled? Just on your property, between fields? To somewhere farther away? On roads? How far on roads? Truck still might be the wrong tool, or at least not better.
adaml_623 13d ago
If you are really a farmer then I would expect you to have more sense than defending all the people who drive to their office job in their massive trucks. Yes people on farms need big vehicles. We're not talking about them.

TitaRusell 13d ago

My mother has rheumatics and she was looking at an SUV for her back. It gets more difficult for old people to climb into a tiny car- and for old people a car is a lifeline. Lots of big cars are driven by small old ladies and it has nothing to do with vanity.

delta_p_delta_x 12d ago
The solution is not an SUV, but an MPV. In almost no situation are pickup trucks, SUVs, or even a crossover the correct kinds of vehicle.

dofm 12d ago

Yep. If you are under 30 in the UK and you have more possessions than can fit in one trip in a Fiesta with the seats down, you have too much stuff.