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It does, plenty of things inside the EV require all kinds of oils, just the maintenance cycle isn't gallons and gallons every x months. You are looking at years

It does, plenty of things inside the EV require all kinds of oils, just the maintenance cycle isn't gallons and gallons every x months. You are looking at years. I got service centers trying to rotate my tires every 3k miles because "ev". The oil change as well, oh you need to change oil every 5k because... because why?

WarmWash 13d ago
By "plenty of things" you mean one thing with a 10yr service interval?
- what-the-grump 12d ago
  https://service.tesla.com/docs/Public/diy/model3/en_us/GUID-A84FDD77-7A8C-42F6-9385-E3F9CEE245A4.html https://service.tesla.com/docs/Public/diy/model3/en_us/GUID-... You got brake fluid, calipers, but it’s not even close to a regular car. The dealerships and shops are doing every one a huge disservice by lying about how frequently engine oil needs to be changed. It’s in the manual but even that should be on page one. And then they set reminders on the car inside whatever last changed or when near, miles. So they’ll set it for 5k instead of 6-8k as the manual says and reminder at when you hit 3k. Like cmon. Or tell me that I need a balance every 3k miles in a Tesla. Shameless.
mikestew 13d ago
plenty of things inside the EV require all kinds of oils I can come up with one. What's your list?
- consp 13d ago
  Not op, but brake fluid comes to mind, power steering fluid, transfer/reduction box. All depends on which ev you are talking about. Things like cv joints, axels and other rotating parts also require greases, again depending on make and model. Not that those need yearly replacement but they do need maintenance.
  - hedgehog 13d ago
    For any car there will also be the periodic service bulletin so every once in a while you'll likely want to go in and deal with those too.
  - mikestew 13d ago
    Brake fluid isn’t oil (generally speaking). EVs have electrical motor-driven power steering, not hydraulic. You scored correctly on the reduction box, which will need changing well after most people sell the car (>100K miles).
    - taneq 13d ago
      It’s hydraulic fluid, which is oil. It’s not formulated the same as engine oil, but it’s not far off gear oil.
      - mikestew 13d ago
        It’s hydraulic fluid, which is oil. Nope, glycol-based and synthetic. Not the best article, but best I could find at the moment: https://engineerfix.com/what-is-brake-fluid-made-of/ https://engineerfix.com/what-is-brake-fluid-made-of/
    - cucumber3732842 13d ago
      I find it hard to believe that someone somewhere isn't making an EV with a electric pump to supply a traditional hydraulic steering system. If I had to guess it would be Europe because they love electric over hydraulic steering.
      - mikestew 13d ago
        Now you have me wondering if our OG Leaf didn’t work that way, as I have this vague memory that maybe it did. EDIT: nope, that is definitely an electric motor on the top of that 2011 Leaf steering rack: https://www.ebay.com/itm/254589825844 https://www.ebay.com/itm/254589825844
SkyPuncher 13d ago
Engine oil is pretty much the only critical one because of the tolerances between the piston and the cylinder. Loose tolerances allow bypass (inefficiency), but tight tolerances require good lubrication (friction). Engine oil is also unique because it’s exposed to oxygen and combustion byproducts. The other components just aren't as sensitive or exposed to as much abuse. Often, really only needing replacement if they’ve leaked out.
ffsm8 13d ago
Bought a old Nissan juke in 2021 - built in 2011. Haven't had to change or refill oil once. Ymmv
- samudrijan 13d ago
  Probably time to change the oil.
- margalabargala 13d ago
  I mean technically you never need to change the oil on any car if you're willing to just drive it into the ground.
  - nickpeterson 13d ago
    I wonder how long a full synthetic could run in an engine that, for whatever reason, doesn’t push oil hard. 20k miles?
    - kalleboo 13d ago
      You can find these stories in the mechanics subreddits, typically it's some Toyota came into the shop dying at around 60k miles with the factory oil turned to sludge.
- stickfigure 13d ago
  There is a YouTube channel sponsored by people like you: https://youtube.com/@i_do_cars https://youtube.com/@i_do_cars
  - ffsm8 12d ago
    What I omitted on purpose is that Ive also only driven it like 4k km during that time period ( ･ั ﹏･ั )
    - anon7725 12d ago

WarmWash 13d ago

By "plenty of things" you mean one thing with a 10yr service interval?

what-the-grump 12d ago
https://service.tesla.com/docs/Public/diy/model3/en_us/GUID-A84FDD77-7A8C-42F6-9385-E3F9CEE245A4.html https://service.tesla.com/docs/Public/diy/model3/en_us/GUID-... You got brake fluid, calipers, but it’s not even close to a regular car. The dealerships and shops are doing every one a huge disservice by lying about how frequently engine oil needs to be changed. It’s in the manual but even that should be on page one. And then they set reminders on the car inside whatever last changed or when near, miles. So they’ll set it for 5k instead of 6-8k as the manual says and reminder at when you hit 3k. Like cmon. Or tell me that I need a balance every 3k miles in a Tesla. Shameless.

mikestew 13d ago

plenty of things inside the EV require all kinds of oils I can come up with one. What's your list?

consp 13d ago
Not op, but brake fluid comes to mind, power steering fluid, transfer/reduction box. All depends on which ev you are talking about. Things like cv joints, axels and other rotating parts also require greases, again depending on make and model. Not that those need yearly replacement but they do need maintenance.
- hedgehog 13d ago
  For any car there will also be the periodic service bulletin so every once in a while you'll likely want to go in and deal with those too.
- mikestew 13d ago
  Brake fluid isn’t oil (generally speaking). EVs have electrical motor-driven power steering, not hydraulic. You scored correctly on the reduction box, which will need changing well after most people sell the car (>100K miles).
  - taneq 13d ago
    It’s hydraulic fluid, which is oil. It’s not formulated the same as engine oil, but it’s not far off gear oil.
    - mikestew 13d ago
      It’s hydraulic fluid, which is oil. Nope, glycol-based and synthetic. Not the best article, but best I could find at the moment: https://engineerfix.com/what-is-brake-fluid-made-of/ https://engineerfix.com/what-is-brake-fluid-made-of/
  - cucumber3732842 13d ago
    I find it hard to believe that someone somewhere isn't making an EV with a electric pump to supply a traditional hydraulic steering system. If I had to guess it would be Europe because they love electric over hydraulic steering.
    - mikestew 13d ago
      Now you have me wondering if our OG Leaf didn’t work that way, as I have this vague memory that maybe it did. EDIT: nope, that is definitely an electric motor on the top of that 2011 Leaf steering rack: https://www.ebay.com/itm/254589825844 https://www.ebay.com/itm/254589825844

SkyPuncher 13d ago

Engine oil is pretty much the only critical one because of the tolerances between the piston and the cylinder. Loose tolerances allow bypass (inefficiency), but tight tolerances require good lubrication (friction). Engine oil is also unique because it’s exposed to oxygen and combustion byproducts. The other components just aren't as sensitive or exposed to as much abuse. Often, really only needing replacement if they’ve leaked out.

ffsm8 13d ago

Bought a old Nissan juke in 2021 - built in 2011. Haven't had to change or refill oil once. Ymmv

samudrijan 13d ago
Probably time to change the oil.
margalabargala 13d ago
I mean technically you never need to change the oil on any car if you're willing to just drive it into the ground.
- nickpeterson 13d ago
  I wonder how long a full synthetic could run in an engine that, for whatever reason, doesn’t push oil hard. 20k miles?
  - kalleboo 13d ago
    You can find these stories in the mechanics subreddits, typically it's some Toyota came into the shop dying at around 60k miles with the factory oil turned to sludge.
stickfigure 13d ago
There is a YouTube channel sponsored by people like you: https://youtube.com/@i_do_cars https://youtube.com/@i_do_cars
- ffsm8 12d ago
  What I omitted on purpose is that Ive also only driven it like 4k km during that time period ( ･ั ﹏･ั )
  - anon7725 12d ago