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What kind of vehicle takes 10 quarts of oil for a single oil change?
by pjdesno 21d ago
What kind of vehicle takes 10 quarts of oil for a single oil change?
- donbox 21d ago[dead]
- nycpig 21d agoMost v8s.
- mdesq 21d agoMost often diesel engines (I used to be an auto mechanic). Even passenger car diesels can take 10+ quarts. Gas engines typically take less oil but big engines can still take 5-7+.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 21d agoI remember using a large Jerry can of oil to top off a MATV. Google says 19-28 quart capacity- oof!
- chneu 21d agoPatriots love their big trucks. More oil = owning the lib vegans.
- johng 21d agoLots of people haul things. The US is huge compared to what most people expect. Big trucks can be a necessity depending on what you do for a living/your way of life.
- readthenotes1 21d agoThat may be true. However it does not explain how many people have big trucks that are never used as trucks
- tonyhart7 21d agothey want big vehicles to carry their big ego
- bobthepanda 21d agoThe vast majority of pickups are not actually used for workmen like purposes. In fact, as carmakers have started pivoting more towards selling them to affluent suburban households, the usable cargo volume has decreased over time despite increasing size.
- 6SixTy 21d agoRight, but seeing trucks obviously not set up for towing or hauling is becoming more common nowadays. With the level of luxury trims available on some trucks now, it's obvious that they aren't a necessity anymore. This is on top of trucks prioritizing 4 door models and taking bites out of the truck bed
- ebbi 21d agoSame trend here in NZ. People buying utes/trucks just because they want, not because they need. They're not as big as the American F150s etc, more a Toyota Hilux or Ford Ranger. And they're often driven by reckless road ragers, often modified with uncertified suspension, bush lights turned on at night blinding oncoming traffic, and wheels extending past the fender flares. These vehicles are often financed to the hilt, so spending money on certifying the modifications is out of the picture, so a lot of these are not legal to drive on the roads.
- 6SixTy 21d agoRemember that the US is it's own market with different regulations and has a complicated history with imports, so no Hilux. Though it does look like the Ranger is externally the same between NZ and US. I'm not counting maybe 1mm as different. I am somewhat familiar with a Ute since I've seen Subaru Bajas before. Not old enough to see Subaru Brats around or El Caminos. It does seem like those people are emulating Americans though a lot of those mods are passable without certification, and it's up to a cop to pull over people using bush lights (they probably won't).
- ebbi 20d agoMy comment wasn't necessarily to talk about model parity across markets - more to highlight the growing trend of people buying large utility vehicles with a tray as a fashion statement (for lack of a better term) than for its utility. > "a lot of those mods are passable without certification" Not true. Besides the bush lights, any changes in suspension and wheel size require a certification, with a LVVTA cert plate attached to the vehicle. There is definitely a case of double standards with police enforcement. 'Boy racers' with modified coupes and sedans - typically lowered, with larger wheels - get way police scrutiny compared to utes with obviously illegal modifications like colored lights, and wheels jutting out past the fenders.
- brnt 21d agoLots of people haul things everywhere. Driving a truck as your main vehicle because you haul something twice a month is ridiculously wasteful, of money foremost. I have a small trailer, rent a bigger one or van when needed.
- delta_p_delta_x 21d agoThings can be hauled just fine in an estate, saloon, or even a hatchback. European camper vans are regularly hauled by tiny Golfs or Polos with barely a litre of engine displacement and a hundred kilowatts of power. Americans just buy much bigger vehicles than necessary.
- snypher 21d ago>Big trucks can be a necessity depending on what you do for a living/your way of life. You might have missed this part. My round bales are 1000kg, and the field gets wet. How do I move the goats? How do I pull someone out of that ditch where the sign says 15mph but every winter they slide through my fence?
- well_ackshually 21d agoWith anything but an F350. How did farmers do anything before Ford saved them with the worst trucks to ever exist, truly a wonder.
- cr3ative 21d agoA tractor, probably.
- twineorwire 20d agoGrew up in farm country and on a (hobby) cattle farm, can confirm, the best tool for between two and three[1] of those is a tractor. Though yes obviously if you have an actual working farm, in any capacity, you need a truck that can tow trailers with decent weight on them. I have noticed truck ownership patterns vary with region, which may be why some people bristle at the notion that vanity-driven truck ownership is common. It's extremely common in the Midwest, city suburbs are full of people who bought an expensive truck either because that's the purchase that'll get them positive attention from their peers at work or in their friend group (and because other options for show-off cars might get them ribbing instead of kudos) or for aspirations they'll never fulfill ("yeah, I'll totally tow a boat to the lake every weekend! Maybe I'll even buy a fifth-wheel camper!" then they end up doing it like twice a year and never buy the camper). It's less common in (at least large parts of) the Northeast. The "I have a nice car people may comment positively on or otherwise approve of" purchases here swing more Volvo and Audi and such, even out in what the locals consider the "country" (it's... not, LOL). [1] Where are the goats being hauled? Just on your property, between fields? To somewhere farther away? On roads? How far on roads? Truck still might be the wrong tool, or at least not better.
- LeBit 21d agoWhat do you think is the % of people having F150 that really do need F150?
- 9x39 21d agoWhat % of people who have wealth really need that wealth?
- LeBit 21d agoNot sure I follow.
- 9x39 20d agoApart from feigned ignorance, a common trope is arguing X vehicle isn’t used optimally in a way they agree with and thus isn’t necessary to own. I was pointing out the logical destination of this.
- LeBit 20d agoNumerous stats show truck owners don’t use their trucks to tow or haul stuff. At least 50% don’t need a truck. There is maybe a 30% that do use their trucks to actually tow and haul on a regular basis. Imagine replacing 50% of pick up trucks with fuel efficient or EV vehicules.
- johncearls 20d agoBut how much of what you own is do you actually "need." People are welcome to do with there money things that simply make them happy. That is a good and proper use of money. This would be a very boring life indeed if people were only allowed to own things that others decided they need.
- johng 20d agoIt's wild to see all these people clowning on truck owners... and then say they are going to buy two 5090's for local AI even though they know it's less efficient than a cloud and don't necessarily need the privacy aspect of it... but want to do it just "cuz" . The hypocrisy here is amazing.
- throw0101a 21d ago> Lots of people haul things. Not with pick-up trucks they don't: > Nearly 90 percent of truck buyers said they never use their truck for business towing, as a mobile office, or as a work site. Yet nearly 40 percent said they drive their truck strictly for pleasure at least once a week. * https://www.carscoops.com/2025/11/capability-by-numbers-what-most-buyers-actually-use-their-trucks-for/ https://www.carscoops.com/2025/11/capability-by-numbers-what... * https://www.powernationtv.com/post/most-pickup-truck-owners-use-them https://www.powernationtv.com/post/most-pickup-truck-owners-... And these are self-reported numbers: what people say about their own behaviour(s). > Big trucks can be a necessity depending on what you do for a living/your way of life. For something like ~90% of pick-up owners that is grocery shopping and errands. As one headline put it, most folks don't need a pick-up truck but rather a cowboy costume: > But, as it turns out, a significant portion of truck owners never use their trucks for these capabilities. According to Edwards’ data, 75 percent of truck owners use their truck for towing one time a year or less (meaning, never). Nearly 70 percent of truck owners go off-road one time a year or less. And a full 35 percent of truck owners use their truck for hauling—putting something in the bed, its ostensible raison d’être—once a year or less. * https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-size-pickup-truck-you-need-a-cowboy-costume https://www.thedrive.com/news/26907/you-dont-need-a-full-siz... People would do better to buy a more fuel efficient vehicle, and use the money saved to rent a truck (or van) the few times a year they need those specific capabilities. They'd probably save money, and we'd probably have fewer dead people and children as well: * https://carbuzz.com/news/the-abrams-m1-tank-has-better-visibility-than-a-ford-super-duty/ https://carbuzz.com/news/the-abrams-m1-tank-has-better-visib...
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- isolatedsystem 21d agoGreat! Hope that works out for you! You seem competent at making sound decisions.
- shoobiedoo 21d agoNot everything has to be political. I live in Japan and raised SUV's with max-grip tires are all the rage here. Just total, 100% useless vanity that wastes fuel for nothing. Flexing useless crap as a status symbol is as old as time
- dietr1ch 21d agoThat's 11.3L for the civilised audience. For reference, my 3.6L 6-cyl boxer needs about 6.5L according to my service notes.
- sdcfgy 21d agoMy 3 cylinder 1.0 litre Citroen takes exactly half that. Interesting.
- dietr1ch 21d agoBut that's an inline engine, right? I think a model based on engine layout, displacement/cylinder, and cylinder count might be quite good at predicting the necessary oil (and will tell you when your car uses a bit too much compared to everyone else).
- taneq 20d agoYou’d need year of manufacture too. There’s been a trend towards larger oil capacities in order to increase service intervals.
- diydsp 21d agoLiters are not SI units. Metric isn't magic. It's not ergnomic nor designed around the human body or everyday experiences. It started arbitrary. Then was defined as in terms of the wavelength of radiation from krypton-86. (the meter was 1,650,763.73 wavelengths of that particular transition to match the original arbitrary metal bar) Then they based it on the distance light travels in an arbitrary amount of time (1/299,792,458 of a second). These were all decidedly non-human scale measurements with no actual scientific basis. Yes they used scientific references, but theyre all arbitrary references.
- dietr1ch 21d agoI didn't say it was SI units, but it's easily convertible to them. Metric isn't magic, but it's a cohesive set of legos that can be transformed easily without requiring messy arithmetic and hard to memorise scale constants. Are you not pretending people use the modern, most-precise definitions in the day-to-day just to give yourself a stab at claiming that Metric is awful? Non-metric would face the same dilemma when trying to establish units in a way that can be scientifically replicated. The counter point is that non-metric is so bad that people don't even bother using it in this endeavor ;)
- whalesalad 21d agoDiesel trucks. My Ram 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi takes 7 qt. The 5.9 Cummins in my Ram 2500 takes 12 qts.
- 27183 21d agoThe 3L diesel in my car takes about 8qt per change. The 5.9L diesel in my truck takes 12qt.
- bijowo1676 21d agomost of V8 engines need 10+ quarts
- doodlebugging 21d agoI've owned and driven V8 engine powered vehicles since the 1970's and have never owned one that used more than 7 qts of oil for an oil change. Most use 5 qts plus a filter. That is why oil is sold in 5 qt jugs. That's all that most vehicles need. Of course my vehicles are all model year 2015 or earlier. I checked specs with different manufacturers and find that the V8 engines that need 10 qts of motor oil are the heavier duty trucks typically with a diesel engine. Checking specs shows that most gasoline V8s require 6 qts, some require 7-8 quarts, and the larger diesel trucks require 10 qts, sometimes up to 11 qts depending on the engine. 10 qts of motor oil takes up a lot of space and that is at a premium in most engine compartments. The oil pan would need to be deep and trucks are the only vehicles that have that much room between the engine block and the crossmembers/differentials.
- bijowo1676 20d agoI own BMW and all BMW V8s (engine models N63, N63TU..N63TU3, S63) require 10 quarts. Same for Mercedes V8 engines models M156..159 that require 9-10 quarts
- doodlebugging 20d agoThanks for the added context. It made me think. I guess I should've qualified my comment with a note about those vehicles being American-made V8s. Diesel engines tend to have higher lubrication requirements thus they have larger oil pans. I see that those BMW engines you listed are gassers so I took a look at their specs to see why they would need such large oil reservoirs. Twin turbos. Mounted in the engine valley. High heat in that configuration and high oil consumption as a result - up to 1 qt/1000 miles. [0] That's crazy. I can drive my V8 powered, non-turbo engine Bronco 10000 miles between oil changes using full synthetic oil without needing to add a full quart of oil and it has more than 330k miles on the odometer. I see now why those BMWs may need a huge oil pan. It is an attempt to compensate for the consequences of design decisions that they knew would create problems. Those engines only need a 10 qt reservoir because they would burn through a smaller volume so fast that no one would buy the vehicle because it required them to check the oil every day and to carry oil so that there was less chance of destroying the engine due to running it low. I was not aware of BMW engines having such huge reservoirs and now that I am I can be glad that I have never considered owing one. I didn't look at Toyota or other foreign manufacturers who also built V8 engines. Maybe I should educate myself. [0]https://bmwtuning.co/n63-engine-problems/ https://bmwtuning.co/n63-engine-problems/
- jervant 21d agoOlder Porsche 911s take about 11 quarts.
- sbierwagen 21d agoSpecifically, oil cooled Porsches take that much, because they have to fill the oil cooler at the front and the lines that lead to the engine at the back.
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- Onavo 21d agoCessnas.
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- bluedino 21d ago2018+ Ford Mustang V8 for one. GM V8's take 8 quarts
- clipclopflop 21d agoAir cooled 911 :)
- OptionOfT 20d agoMy BMW M8 with the S63TU4 4.4L V8 takes 10 liters. Previous one one which had a B58 took 7 liters.
- Vitamin_Sushi 20d agoMy old Mercedes C240 (W203) took about 8qts for a single oil change. I'm glad I got rid of that car.