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Your mileage went from VW->telematics vendor->broker->carfax, thats the chain it usually follows. The fuse stops it but the real issue is the owner is the only
by samsullivan 15d ago
Your mileage went from VW->telematics vendor->broker->carfax, thats the chain it usually follows. The fuse stops it but the real issue is the owner is the only one without the record.
You could probably find some interesting info if you send out some privacy requests through the chain. LexisNexis and Verisk are consumer reporting agencies, so they have to provide you a disclosure on request. Start there.
- e40 14d agoIs there usually a fuse that just turns off the telemetry? I would be surprised if that is the case. I could see the design being "if you turn this fuse off to turn off telemetry, you'll also lose these functions: ..." and if they did it "right" they'd make the car non-functional. My car is from 2011 and I do wonder if there is any telemetry in it.
- brookst 14d agoYeah an electrical fuse for telemetry seems really odd. Even without malice it would be strange if disconnecting power to some part of the computer only affected telemetry. I could see a fuse for cellular comms, be presumably that would also disable maps, contacting emergency services in an accident, etc. which might be an acceptable tradeoff.
- kevin_thibedeau 14d agoMy Ford has a dedicated fuse for accessory packages that include the modem. Mine doesn't have any other options that share that fuse so it is functionally the telemetry fuse.
- samsullivan 14d agoTelemetry is usually a standalone module. Heres one off a 26 Hyundai Palisade -- Telematics (DCU) Part num: 96510P9100 firmware (OTA updatable) 01F.7.CAN.3.000.18.714.9 Its only job is to detect harsh acceleration and brake events. Probably being sold to your insurer.
- skywhopper 14d agoThere’s probably a fuse to turn off the cellular radio that transmits the data. Whether that’s all it covers may vary from car to car. Or in some models it’s probably possible to just disconnect the radio entirely.
- petre 14d agoProbably has something to do with the fact that car companies are obsessed with having the thing modularized, each module needing a fuse.
- queenkjuul 14d agoJust looked up my 2016 Toyota. My car has no telemetry module, and for cars that do there are companies that sell harnesses that plug into the module, terminating the antennas and/or cutting power without affecting anything else
- andy99 14d agoSo I first read this comment and thought is looked like AI and thought I’d give the benefit of the doubt. Then I saw this where there is no doubt: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49687774 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49687774 I thought, I wonder if it’s the same guy? Sure enough. Stop it.
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- lotsofpulp 14d agoCan you explain how the statement below makes sense? >The fuse stops it but the real issue is the owner is the only one without the record.
- _carbyau_ 14d agoIf I take your two sentence comment and remove one sentence it also is non-sensical. Stop removing context. >Your mileage went from VW->telematics vendor->broker->carfax, thats the chain it usually follows. The fuse stops it but the real... Prior commentary advised removing the fuse to stop the telemetry. This comment points out that the chain of information flow precludes the owner of the car.
- lotsofpulp 14d ago>the real issue is the owner is the only one without the record I don't understand what "the record" is referring to here. The mileage is presumably still on the odometer of the car. So what is "the record" that the owner does not have and how is that causing the owner an issue?
- tmnvix 14d agoPresumably the mileage is a subset of the data that makes up "the record"?