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I'd be living on a beach in Italy right now were it not for the visa situation. Anybody know a way around the 90-day rule for Americans?

by wilfra 14y ago

mkuhn 14y ago
If you have enough money take up residence in Switzerland. Tax rates in certain parts are negotiable as long as you do not earn money in Switzerland and we are part of the Schengen Area which allows you to travel freely within most of Europe.
- onetwothreefour 14y ago
  How much money do you need? :)
mansoor-s 14y ago
Apply for a long stay visa with the Italian gov't
- wilfra 14y ago
  What are the requirements for this? Do you have to have a job or be a student or setup a company or ...?
  - raverbashing 14y ago
    http://www.esteri.it/MAE/EN/Ministero/Servizi/Stranieri/IngressoSoggiornoInItalia/Soggiorno_stranieri_in_Italia.htm http://www.esteri.it/MAE/EN/Ministero/Servizi/Stranieri/Ingr... bad translation, but after entering Italy you can stay longer by proving you have the resources to stay there (like a longer tourism visa) (that's on that site somewhere, not on this page, but that's a starting point)
  - davidw 14y ago
    You have to become an expert in Italian bureaucracy. It's very difficult. You want to just talk to an Italian lawyer, pay them a bunch of money, and then wait a few years. Italy does not want skilled employees moving here. Well, they say they do, but they don't really act like it. The easiest thing to do is get married, or find a company here willing to hire you. BTW, not sure you'd enjoy the beaches in Italy much at this time of year - it might be getting up to 20C in Sicily soon, they say, but here in the north it's about 6C and foggy. BTW, I see you are a 'designer/developer': the company I'm contracting for right now might actually be interested in someone like that. If you're interested, or if you just want to chat about Italy, you're welcome to drop me an email.
mahesh_rm 14y ago
I am Italian. I set up a company in Italy and hire you. You set up a company in California and hire me. We pay each other the same minimum amount of money, and we are able to live where we want. If this fails, we can always get married!
- carlob 14y ago
  It might be difficult to get married in Italy if you have the same gender… blame it on the catholic church!
fauigerzigerk 14y ago
Unfortunately I don't. It's pretty incredible how in a world of supposed free trade and globalisation we are prevented from freely trading our most valuable goods - our skills and knowledge and creativity.
- mkuhn 14y ago
  Oh, I mentioned the money because Switzerland is a very expensive country to live in. Zurich, where I am from, was just "awarded" as the most expensive city in the world [1]. On the other hand wages in Switzerland are also among the highest in the world - it balances out. So if you want to work here just start applying. Google has its largest development office outside of the US here and a lot of companies have their European headquarters here and a lot of (former) startups are moving here too (e.g. Evernote [2] or Kayak [3]). I am not saying Switzerland is the easiest country to get into to work but it is definitely possible and a lot of people do. Over 20% of residents are foreigners and I am very proud of that fact. So: If you have unique skills, knowledge and creativity you are definitely very welcome here and I guess in most parts of the world. [1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/9092994/Zurich-is-worlds-most-expensive-city.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-mon... [2] http://www.moneyhouse.ch/en/u/evernote_gmbh_CH-020.4.046.397-5.htm http://www.moneyhouse.ch/en/u/evernote_gmbh_CH-020.4.046.397... [3] http://www.kayak.de/contact http://www.kayak.de/contact

I'd be living on a beach in Italy right now were it not for the visa situation. Anybody know a way around the 90-day rule for Americans?

by wilfra 14y ago

I'd be living on a beach in Italy right now were it not for the visa situation. Anybody know a way around the 90-day rule for Americans?

mkuhn 14y ago

If you have enough money take up residence in Switzerland. Tax rates in certain parts are negotiable as long as you do not earn money in Switzerland and we are part of the Schengen Area which allows you to travel freely within most of Europe.

onetwothreefour 14y ago
How much money do you need? :)

mansoor-s 14y ago

Apply for a long stay visa with the Italian gov't

wilfra 14y ago
What are the requirements for this? Do you have to have a job or be a student or setup a company or ...?
- raverbashing 14y ago
  http://www.esteri.it/MAE/EN/Ministero/Servizi/Stranieri/IngressoSoggiornoInItalia/Soggiorno_stranieri_in_Italia.htm http://www.esteri.it/MAE/EN/Ministero/Servizi/Stranieri/Ingr... bad translation, but after entering Italy you can stay longer by proving you have the resources to stay there (like a longer tourism visa) (that's on that site somewhere, not on this page, but that's a starting point)
- davidw 14y ago
  You have to become an expert in Italian bureaucracy. It's very difficult. You want to just talk to an Italian lawyer, pay them a bunch of money, and then wait a few years. Italy does not want skilled employees moving here. Well, they say they do, but they don't really act like it. The easiest thing to do is get married, or find a company here willing to hire you. BTW, not sure you'd enjoy the beaches in Italy much at this time of year - it might be getting up to 20C in Sicily soon, they say, but here in the north it's about 6C and foggy. BTW, I see you are a 'designer/developer': the company I'm contracting for right now might actually be interested in someone like that. If you're interested, or if you just want to chat about Italy, you're welcome to drop me an email.

mahesh_rm 14y ago

I am Italian. I set up a company in Italy and hire you. You set up a company in California and hire me. We pay each other the same minimum amount of money, and we are able to live where we want. If this fails, we can always get married!

carlob 14y ago
It might be difficult to get married in Italy if you have the same gender… blame it on the catholic church!

fauigerzigerk 14y ago

Unfortunately I don't. It's pretty incredible how in a world of supposed free trade and globalisation we are prevented from freely trading our most valuable goods - our skills and knowledge and creativity.

mkuhn 14y ago
Oh, I mentioned the money because Switzerland is a very expensive country to live in. Zurich, where I am from, was just "awarded" as the most expensive city in the world [1]. On the other hand wages in Switzerland are also among the highest in the world - it balances out. So if you want to work here just start applying. Google has its largest development office outside of the US here and a lot of companies have their European headquarters here and a lot of (former) startups are moving here too (e.g. Evernote [2] or Kayak [3]). I am not saying Switzerland is the easiest country to get into to work but it is definitely possible and a lot of people do. Over 20% of residents are foreigners and I am very proud of that fact. So: If you have unique skills, knowledge and creativity you are definitely very welcome here and I guess in most parts of the world. [1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/9092994/Zurich-is-worlds-most-expensive-city.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-mon... [2] http://www.moneyhouse.ch/en/u/evernote_gmbh_CH-020.4.046.397-5.htm http://www.moneyhouse.ch/en/u/evernote_gmbh_CH-020.4.046.397... [3] http://www.kayak.de/contact http://www.kayak.de/contact