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Uncompensated volunteers dropping support for a 7 year old device that is shortly going to be unsupported by the manufacturer isn't a rug pull. Entitlement can

Uncompensated volunteers dropping support for a 7 year old device that is shortly going to be unsupported by the manufacturer isn't a rug pull. Entitlement can be wild, volunteers are volunteers. Consumers of volunteer output are free to support their use cases themselves on their own time. Find an ARM Mac used (like an M1) and upgrade.

tonyedgecombe 1mo ago
> Find an ARM Mac used (like an M1) and upgrade. And throw away perfectly good hardware.
- toomuchtodo 1mo ago
  If it no longer is supported by software, it’s no longer perfectly good. Certainly, if you want to spend your time on supporting unsupported hardware based on personal belief, that’s a choice, and it’s your time. Compare to the cost of replacing the hardware. Time is not free, it is the ultimate non renewable resource. We are all slowly dying one day at a time, is that how you want to spend your time? Recycle old gear when the math no longer maths and move on.
  - tonyedgecombe 1mo ago
    >We are all slowly dying one day at a time, is that how you want to spend your time? Mindless consumption isn't going to extend your life.
    - toomuchtodo 1mo ago
      Tinkering and building for fun brings joy, joy is the point of life. Tinker mindfully. “Tinker and build what matters, to you.”
- mixmastamyk 1mo ago
  In general I agree, but recycling old power hungry gear may be better for the environment in the long term.
  - hn_throw2025 1mo ago
    So discard a working and perfectly good Macbook to be replaced by a new one manufactured by the World’s #1 CO2 emitter and transported probably halfway around the world in a container ship burning dirty bunker fuel.
    - mixmastamyk 1mo ago
      Per unit costs are pretty low, and old Intel gear particularly energy guzzling.
ryandrake 1mo ago
As I replied in another comment[1], it's their software, their choice. Homebrew devs are doing the volunteer work, so they get to decide the support period and when to pull the rug out. I'll still shake my fists about it, because it's personally my biggest problem with the entire software industry's attitude, not just open source. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49687331 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49687331
- jcastro 1mo ago
  You're right, expecting other people to do your work for your for free is indeed a problem with the industry!

tonyedgecombe 1mo ago

> Find an ARM Mac used (like an M1) and upgrade. And throw away perfectly good hardware.

toomuchtodo 1mo ago
If it no longer is supported by software, it’s no longer perfectly good. Certainly, if you want to spend your time on supporting unsupported hardware based on personal belief, that’s a choice, and it’s your time. Compare to the cost of replacing the hardware. Time is not free, it is the ultimate non renewable resource. We are all slowly dying one day at a time, is that how you want to spend your time? Recycle old gear when the math no longer maths and move on.
- tonyedgecombe 1mo ago
  >We are all slowly dying one day at a time, is that how you want to spend your time? Mindless consumption isn't going to extend your life.
  - toomuchtodo 1mo ago
    Tinkering and building for fun brings joy, joy is the point of life. Tinker mindfully. “Tinker and build what matters, to you.”
mixmastamyk 1mo ago
In general I agree, but recycling old power hungry gear may be better for the environment in the long term.
- hn_throw2025 1mo ago
  So discard a working and perfectly good Macbook to be replaced by a new one manufactured by the World’s #1 CO2 emitter and transported probably halfway around the world in a container ship burning dirty bunker fuel.
  - mixmastamyk 1mo ago
    Per unit costs are pretty low, and old Intel gear particularly energy guzzling.

ryandrake 1mo ago

As I replied in another comment[1], it's their software, their choice. Homebrew devs are doing the volunteer work, so they get to decide the support period and when to pull the rug out. I'll still shake my fists about it, because it's personally my biggest problem with the entire software industry's attitude, not just open source. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49687331 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49687331

jcastro 1mo ago
You're right, expecting other people to do your work for your for free is indeed a problem with the industry!