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Yes they can. At the end of the day, whether the food was made in a microwave oven or by a Michelin starred chef, the user is fed. Doing the work means that the

Yes they can. At the end of the day, whether the food was made in a microwave oven or by a Michelin starred chef, the user is fed. Doing the work means that the work happened. Anything else is secondary.

nitros 1mo ago
A large part of this project was my personal learning. Ultimately I didn't improve the functionality of the device by a large margin; instead I learned a lot about how these devices are built. If I'd let Claude write replacent firmware it would've all been for naught.
- jdcasale 1mo ago
  Apologies for hijacking this comment, but if you have any interest in doing this sort of work full-time I may have a job for you. This project is awesome.
nearlyepic 1mo ago
You wouldn't call someone who puts food in a microwave a chef, would you? And you wouldn't say that putting food in the microwave is the same thing as cooking a Michelin star meal. These are different things.
- perching_aix 1mo ago
  How they meant "you": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you How you meant "you": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deixis#Personal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deixis#Personal I have a hunch this is not lost on you though, and you're doing this performatively. Please stop. It is beyond tiresome, and it is not going to compel anybody. On the contrary, it is a great way to induce animosity. I assure you that what you're describing is lost on no one either; rather, unlike you, plenty of people simply do not care, and find this distinction trite at best. Especially when presented this way.
  - nearlyepic 1mo ago
    > I have a hunch this is not lost on you though, and you're doing this performatively. Uh, duh? I’m trying to draw a distinction that the person isn’t doing the work, the LLM is. > On the contrary, it is a great way to induce animosity. Sorry, what had you under the impression I was trying to make friends? When people who suck show up to your spot, you make them go away by making it clear they’re not welcome.
    - fragmede 1mo ago
      What if you're the one that sucks?
      - nearlyepic 1mo ago
        Then we can agree to disagree :)
    - perching_aix 1mo ago
      > Sorry, what had you under the impression I was trying to make friends? Why, are you here to make enemies instead? If not, and heaven forbid there's a space between the two, this should apply: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle Or do you really need to be explained the point of civility? > When people who suck show up to your spot, you make them go away by making it clear they’re not welcome. Except you were not making things clear. On the contrary, you were pretending that there was ambiguity in their words, which arguably only complicated things. This is a very cowardly and sly way to make any point. Mind you, for the unwelcome people, the downvote and flag buttons are the way to go. Comments are for conversation.
      - nearlyepic 1mo ago
        I’m not interested in being civil with people who actually believe using LLMs give you skills. The same way I’m not interested in being civil with homophobes and flat-earthers.
devsda 1mo ago
A microwave just cooks your input ingredients and if you use non microwave safe containers or food that is not suitable for it, you get edible but hazardous food. Garbage in, Garbage out. There are minimum expectations on user like ability to source proper materials, use them correctly and an ability to verify/check the result for problems. More important if it's something you want to eat or ride!

nitros 1mo ago

A large part of this project was my personal learning. Ultimately I didn't improve the functionality of the device by a large margin; instead I learned a lot about how these devices are built. If I'd let Claude write replacent firmware it would've all been for naught.

jdcasale 1mo ago
Apologies for hijacking this comment, but if you have any interest in doing this sort of work full-time I may have a job for you. This project is awesome.

nearlyepic 1mo ago

You wouldn't call someone who puts food in a microwave a chef, would you? And you wouldn't say that putting food in the microwave is the same thing as cooking a Michelin star meal. These are different things.

perching_aix 1mo ago
How they meant "you": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generic_you How you meant "you": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deixis#Personal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deixis#Personal I have a hunch this is not lost on you though, and you're doing this performatively. Please stop. It is beyond tiresome, and it is not going to compel anybody. On the contrary, it is a great way to induce animosity. I assure you that what you're describing is lost on no one either; rather, unlike you, plenty of people simply do not care, and find this distinction trite at best. Especially when presented this way.
- nearlyepic 1mo ago
  > I have a hunch this is not lost on you though, and you're doing this performatively. Uh, duh? I’m trying to draw a distinction that the person isn’t doing the work, the LLM is. > On the contrary, it is a great way to induce animosity. Sorry, what had you under the impression I was trying to make friends? When people who suck show up to your spot, you make them go away by making it clear they’re not welcome.
  - fragmede 1mo ago
    What if you're the one that sucks?
    - nearlyepic 1mo ago
      Then we can agree to disagree :)
  - perching_aix 1mo ago
    > Sorry, what had you under the impression I was trying to make friends? Why, are you here to make enemies instead? If not, and heaven forbid there's a space between the two, this should apply: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_principle Or do you really need to be explained the point of civility? > When people who suck show up to your spot, you make them go away by making it clear they’re not welcome. Except you were not making things clear. On the contrary, you were pretending that there was ambiguity in their words, which arguably only complicated things. This is a very cowardly and sly way to make any point. Mind you, for the unwelcome people, the downvote and flag buttons are the way to go. Comments are for conversation.
    - nearlyepic 1mo ago
      I’m not interested in being civil with people who actually believe using LLMs give you skills. The same way I’m not interested in being civil with homophobes and flat-earthers.

devsda 1mo ago

A microwave just cooks your input ingredients and if you use non microwave safe containers or food that is not suitable for it, you get edible but hazardous food. Garbage in, Garbage out. There are minimum expectations on user like ability to source proper materials, use them correctly and an ability to verify/check the result for problems. More important if it's something you want to eat or ride!