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Yeah but then it is genocidal racial supremacist humans doing the killing, not the AI going "out of control" or whatever and killing the human race. I find it

Yeah but then it is genocidal racial supremacist humans doing the killing, not the AI going "out of control" or whatever and killing the human race. I find it far-fetched to think the AI is going to kill us, and not actually just humans using tools to do things like we've always done. This is my point. What are the odds of humans killing everyone on the planet Vs that of AI going out of control doing it? If it's 10% chance of AI causing human extinction - and everyone is losing their shit over that 10% that I suspect was just plucked out of the air - are we not as concerned at what I think are much higher chances of those genocidal racial supremacists doing the same? I guess though this is all semantics. Did the person pulling the trigger kill the person who was shot, or the actual chunk of metal that was the bullet kill the person?

ben_w 21d ago
> not the AI going "out of control" or whatever and killing the human race All of the "going out of control" examples can be described as examples of "human asked computer to do thing". The only question is how much the human who did the asking, expected all the consequences of the thing.
- mattlondon 21d ago
  Yeah that's fair actually - the unintended consequences aspect (paperclips et al) I would hope that would be less of a concern though Vs people worried that the hugging face example could have been "generate a human virus that kills all humans and then manufacture it and then administer it" etc
  - ben_w 21d ago
    I have good news and bad news. The good news is biologists seem to think that's fairly difficult, so much so it will (probably) not be a nearterm threat. The bad news is: there are definitely people who want that goal, and the AI is clearly capable of hacking anything that isn't literally airgapped, and not much is literally airgapped, and a half-arsed virus could still kill tens of millions.

ben_w 21d ago

> not the AI going "out of control" or whatever and killing the human race All of the "going out of control" examples can be described as examples of "human asked computer to do thing". The only question is how much the human who did the asking, expected all the consequences of the thing.

mattlondon 21d ago
Yeah that's fair actually - the unintended consequences aspect (paperclips et al) I would hope that would be less of a concern though Vs people worried that the hugging face example could have been "generate a human virus that kills all humans and then manufacture it and then administer it" etc
- ben_w 21d ago
  I have good news and bad news. The good news is biologists seem to think that's fairly difficult, so much so it will (probably) not be a nearterm threat. The bad news is: there are definitely people who want that goal, and the AI is clearly capable of hacking anything that isn't literally airgapped, and not much is literally airgapped, and a half-arsed virus could still kill tens of millions.