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US citizens are bad at protesting. In my area these cameras would be on fire weekly.

whimsicalism 2mo ago
What country?
mikeodds 2mo ago
French? I was impressed by: Yellow vests knock out 60% of all speed cameras in France https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46822472 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46822472
- tekla 2mo ago
  This story isn't related this issue at all. This was about a fuel tax, not actually about the cameras themselves
  - mikeodds 2mo ago
    Yes rather it was an example of action rather than words
- andwhatisthis 2mo ago
  Would be nice, but we (in France) have plenty of cameras already. They may not be branded Flock, but they're there nonetheless. And as far as I'm aware, none of them are ablaze.
bdangubic 2mo ago
US Citizens have been tamed by “social” and other media propaganda by the people in power. But we got 2A handy to you know, hunt for rabbits and shit
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k33n 2mo ago
In Florida, we just talked to our reps and got them banned from the entire state. It was easy and didn’t require protests at all.
- aftbit 2mo ago
  Did they switch to Axon?
  - k33n 2mo ago
    Nope. Florida simply led the way and calmly banned Flock cameras from the entire state. Every other state that cares about individual liberty should follow suit.
    - jasonlotito 2mo ago
      I mean, let's not get carried away. Florida still has very oppressive anti-second-amendment legislation and laws on the books, and until they get rid of that, I wouldn't call them anywhere close to having individual liberty.
      - k33n 2mo ago
        Florida has permit-less, constitutional open-carry. Not sure what more you could ask for from a 2A perspective.
      - y1n0 2mo ago
        When I lived in FLA and it was super easy to get a concealed weapon permit. I carried a gun not infrequently just to exercise that right. I was serious about training with it as well. The other states I’ve lived in haven’t been so straight forward.
    - aftbit 2mo ago
      They revoked permits for all license plate readers currently placed along the state highway rights of way. They did not ban privately owned Flock Safety cameras (e.g. at a housing development or whatever), nor did they ban police from mounting ALPRs on their patrol cars. It sounds like this applies only to the "State Highway System", not to local roads - but maybe I'm misunderstanding the scope of that. https://fdotwww.blob.core.windows.net/sitefinity/docs/default-source/design/bulletins/eom26-01.pdf https://fdotwww.blob.core.windows.net/sitefinity/docs/defaul... >Monday’s order did not affect cameras on private property or on local rights-of-way — which together is 98% of surveillance cameras, DeSantis said — but some localities in Florida said they were following suit. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/florida-bans-flock-and-other-license-plate-readers-from-state-highways-as-backlash-grows/ar-AA2bj257 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/florida-bans-flock-and-... Ironically it is the Republican governors of Texas and Florida who are leading this anti-surveillance push, even as the government of Texas has used Flock cameras in other jurisdictions to harass and intimidate pregnant women seeking out of state abortions. https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/texas-deputy-searched-83-000-152212195.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/texas-deputy-se...
greenchair 2mo ago
na, we are just more civilized.
Simulacra 2mo ago
Absolutely horrible. They show up on Saturday's yelling at empty buildings. Very rarely does an American protest against a government body change policy. If you want to really do something, show up on a Tuesday morning, stop traffic, flood the phone lines, and the email systems, relentlessly day after day. Americans are far too comfortable to truly protest.

What country?

French? I was impressed by: Yellow vests knock out 60% of all speed cameras in France https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46822472 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46822472

tekla 2mo ago
This story isn't related this issue at all. This was about a fuel tax, not actually about the cameras themselves
- mikeodds 2mo ago
  Yes rather it was an example of action rather than words
andwhatisthis 2mo ago
Would be nice, but we (in France) have plenty of cameras already. They may not be branded Flock, but they're there nonetheless. And as far as I'm aware, none of them are ablaze.

bdangubic 2mo ago

US Citizens have been tamed by “social” and other media propaganda by the people in power. But we got 2A handy to you know, hunt for rabbits and shit

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- flammafex 2mo ago
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k33n 2mo ago

In Florida, we just talked to our reps and got them banned from the entire state. It was easy and didn’t require protests at all.

aftbit 2mo ago
Did they switch to Axon?
- k33n 2mo ago
  Nope. Florida simply led the way and calmly banned Flock cameras from the entire state. Every other state that cares about individual liberty should follow suit.
  - jasonlotito 2mo ago
    I mean, let's not get carried away. Florida still has very oppressive anti-second-amendment legislation and laws on the books, and until they get rid of that, I wouldn't call them anywhere close to having individual liberty.
    - k33n 2mo ago
      Florida has permit-less, constitutional open-carry. Not sure what more you could ask for from a 2A perspective.
    - y1n0 2mo ago
      When I lived in FLA and it was super easy to get a concealed weapon permit. I carried a gun not infrequently just to exercise that right. I was serious about training with it as well. The other states I’ve lived in haven’t been so straight forward.
  - aftbit 2mo ago
    They revoked permits for all license plate readers currently placed along the state highway rights of way. They did not ban privately owned Flock Safety cameras (e.g. at a housing development or whatever), nor did they ban police from mounting ALPRs on their patrol cars. It sounds like this applies only to the "State Highway System", not to local roads - but maybe I'm misunderstanding the scope of that. https://fdotwww.blob.core.windows.net/sitefinity/docs/default-source/design/bulletins/eom26-01.pdf https://fdotwww.blob.core.windows.net/sitefinity/docs/defaul... >Monday’s order did not affect cameras on private property or on local rights-of-way — which together is 98% of surveillance cameras, DeSantis said — but some localities in Florida said they were following suit. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/florida-bans-flock-and-other-license-plate-readers-from-state-highways-as-backlash-grows/ar-AA2bj257 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/florida-bans-flock-and-... Ironically it is the Republican governors of Texas and Florida who are leading this anti-surveillance push, even as the government of Texas has used Flock cameras in other jurisdictions to harass and intimidate pregnant women seeking out of state abortions. https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/texas-deputy-searched-83-000-152212195.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/texas-deputy-se...

greenchair 2mo ago

na, we are just more civilized.

Simulacra 2mo ago

Absolutely horrible. They show up on Saturday's yelling at empty buildings. Very rarely does an American protest against a government body change policy. If you want to really do something, show up on a Tuesday morning, stop traffic, flood the phone lines, and the email systems, relentlessly day after day. Americans are far too comfortable to truly protest.