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The GUI is pretty sharp, but I don’t like it uses emoji instead of SF symbols. Is it Claude or Codex built?

by internet2000 19d ago

illiac786 19d ago
I don’t get these questions asking if it’s codex or Claude – I see them often. Does it matter? There are other options out there also, it feels strange to ask this. Like asking “is your car a Toyota or a BMW?“
- csande17 19d ago
  If you say "AI tools", some vibe-coders try to equivocate between tools that generate the whole program for you and, like, an editor that uses an scoring algorithm to decide which method to show at the top of an autocomplete list. But if you say "vibe coding", some vibe-coders try to claim that what they're doing technically isn't vibe coding because they applied some non-zero amount of testing or review during the process. If you ask "did you build this using Codex or Claude", it removes most of the wiggle room. And it's worded pretty neutrally, so it will often get vibe-coders who aren't technically using either of those tools to say something like, "Actually, I've built a custom harness for DeepSeek..." instead of an outright denial.
- tbeseda 19d ago
  Long term it matters very much if your car is Toyota or BMW or Kia or John Deere though. I think some users are also conscious about the longevity of their tooling related to LLM usage, too. Whether it has an effect or not, we've yet to find out.
  - illiac786 19d ago
    My point was “why do you assume it’s one of the two”.
    - deleted 19d ago
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mikemcquaid 19d ago
I didn’t build it. The emoji were my idea. I (and Homebrew) have used them heavily before LLMs did. Maybe LLMs loving them is my fault. Sorry if so.
- conorcleary 19d ago
  Have we pinned down the emdashes source yet? ;-P
  - simondotau 19d ago
    I think it's because LLMs tend to obsessively write in a this-therefore-that kind of way, where an emdash is often the most semantically fitting punctuation.
  - threecheese 19d ago
    Apple devices produce a ton of emdashes; "Smart Punctuation" is enabled by default on iOS and iPadOS, maybe Mac as well - and it's at least a decade old. I've had to disable it on all my iDevices bc it breaks some Markdown parsers. How big a % of training data was produced on an Apple device? Ehhhhh probably small.

The GUI is pretty sharp, but I don’t like it uses emoji instead of SF symbols. Is it Claude or Codex built?

I don’t get these questions asking if it’s codex or Claude – I see them often. Does it matter? There are other options out there also, it feels strange to ask this. Like asking “is your car a Toyota or a BMW?“

csande17 19d ago
If you say "AI tools", some vibe-coders try to equivocate between tools that generate the whole program for you and, like, an editor that uses an scoring algorithm to decide which method to show at the top of an autocomplete list. But if you say "vibe coding", some vibe-coders try to claim that what they're doing technically isn't vibe coding because they applied some non-zero amount of testing or review during the process. If you ask "did you build this using Codex or Claude", it removes most of the wiggle room. And it's worded pretty neutrally, so it will often get vibe-coders who aren't technically using either of those tools to say something like, "Actually, I've built a custom harness for DeepSeek..." instead of an outright denial.
tbeseda 19d ago
Long term it matters very much if your car is Toyota or BMW or Kia or John Deere though. I think some users are also conscious about the longevity of their tooling related to LLM usage, too. Whether it has an effect or not, we've yet to find out.
- illiac786 19d ago
  My point was “why do you assume it’s one of the two”.
  - deleted 19d ago
    [deleted]

mikemcquaid 19d ago

I didn’t build it. The emoji were my idea. I (and Homebrew) have used them heavily before LLMs did. Maybe LLMs loving them is my fault. Sorry if so.

conorcleary 19d ago
Have we pinned down the emdashes source yet? ;-P
- simondotau 19d ago
  I think it's because LLMs tend to obsessively write in a this-therefore-that kind of way, where an emdash is often the most semantically fitting punctuation.
- threecheese 19d ago
  Apple devices produce a ton of emdashes; "Smart Punctuation" is enabled by default on iOS and iPadOS, maybe Mac as well - and it's at least a decade old. I've had to disable it on all my iDevices bc it breaks some Markdown parsers. How big a % of training data was produced on an Apple device? Ehhhhh probably small.