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Relevant: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/open-minded-conservatives-prejudiced-liberals/ http://www.theamericanconservative.com/open-minded-conservat...

by jacobn 14y ago

Relevant: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/open-minded-conservatives-prejudiced-liberals/ http://www.theamericanconservative.com/open-minded-conservat... Supposedly based on an actual study - I'll let you vet the sources ;)

gnaritas 14y ago
Not relevant, I live in Arizona and lack of contact with conservatives is not an issue; hell, I wish it were.
- dhimes 14y ago
  Not a rant, just an observation: Republicans aren't conservative. They are military-industrial socialists. That's why things like Fox get annoying: they go around pointing fingers at the others, yet push out their own stimulus packages (via military spending increases) and their own flavor of socialism. A lot of "true" conservatives have left the party. FTR, I don't classify myself as either liberal or conservative; I've been a member of the Democratic party and the Republican party, and left them both. I can't stand either of them. And I really can't stand hypocrisy.
  - gnaritas 14y ago
    These true conservatives might have left the party, but they're still voting for the party because I don't see any big shift in representatives yet that mirrors this big exodus you speak of. I know many such ex-republicans, they all still voted Romney and republican despite their vocal protests of the party.
    - ams6110 14y ago
      Given that Romney got a lower turnout than McCain, it certainly seems that some number of people have left the party, or are at least witholding support for the time being.
      - gnaritas 14y ago
        I'll grant you that; but abstaining doesn't help much. They should be splitting the party and separating the real conservatives from the religious right.
        dhimes 14y ago
        That's going to take time- plus I'm not sure they will attain critical mass for a party to succeed. I bet most self-professed 'conservatives' would argue that Republicans are conservative. It seems to be a religion or something.
    - cobrausn 14y ago
      That's not all too different from Democrats who criticize Obama w.r.t. drone warfare, whistle blower prosecution, etc, but vote for him anyhow.
      - gnaritas 14y ago
        It's much different; we criticize Obama but don't consider him a DINO and want to kick him out of the party. Republicans tend to eat their own, they want ideological purity in a way Democrats never have. Democrats tolerate ideological differences within the party and within congressional votes vastly more than republicans do.

by jacobn 14y ago

gnaritas 14y ago

Not relevant, I live in Arizona and lack of contact with conservatives is not an issue; hell, I wish it were.

dhimes 14y ago
Not a rant, just an observation: Republicans aren't conservative. They are military-industrial socialists. That's why things like Fox get annoying: they go around pointing fingers at the others, yet push out their own stimulus packages (via military spending increases) and their own flavor of socialism. A lot of "true" conservatives have left the party. FTR, I don't classify myself as either liberal or conservative; I've been a member of the Democratic party and the Republican party, and left them both. I can't stand either of them. And I really can't stand hypocrisy.
- gnaritas 14y ago
  These true conservatives might have left the party, but they're still voting for the party because I don't see any big shift in representatives yet that mirrors this big exodus you speak of. I know many such ex-republicans, they all still voted Romney and republican despite their vocal protests of the party.
  - ams6110 14y ago
    Given that Romney got a lower turnout than McCain, it certainly seems that some number of people have left the party, or are at least witholding support for the time being.
    - gnaritas 14y ago
      I'll grant you that; but abstaining doesn't help much. They should be splitting the party and separating the real conservatives from the religious right.
      - dhimes 14y ago
        That's going to take time- plus I'm not sure they will attain critical mass for a party to succeed. I bet most self-professed 'conservatives' would argue that Republicans are conservative. It seems to be a religion or something.
  - cobrausn 14y ago
    That's not all too different from Democrats who criticize Obama w.r.t. drone warfare, whistle blower prosecution, etc, but vote for him anyhow.
    - gnaritas 14y ago
      It's much different; we criticize Obama but don't consider him a DINO and want to kick him out of the party. Republicans tend to eat their own, they want ideological purity in a way Democrats never have. Democrats tolerate ideological differences within the party and within congressional votes vastly more than republicans do.