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Honestly this, the countless "I hacked my [insert here the most random appliance]" every day, e.g. before that on HN https://medium.com/@ivangomezarnedo/how-i-a
by utopiah 1mo ago
Honestly this, the countless "I hacked my [insert here the most random appliance]" every day, e.g. before that on HN https://medium.com/@ivangomezarnedo/how-i-added-a-non-wi-fi-mitsubishi-ac-to-home-assistant-22770661dd77 https://medium.com/@ivangomezarnedo/how-i-added-a-non-wi-fi-... and the polite arguments in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49680275 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49680275 shows me that :
we do need an actual INTERFACE for appliances.
Intellectually speaking it's really cool to "hack" your device, I do it too, but ... we shouldn't have to.
We should be able to interface with hardware on our terms, offline, no proprietary app needed. It could work with the official app, with or without the server of the manufacturer, but it should not have to be the case.
- XorNot 1mo agoHonestly if Tuya just added official support so you could OTA flash their stuff, then between that and ESPHome this would already be done. If you have physical access (not easy always) it's relatively straight forward to upgrade a Tuya device to be truly local, but they've aggressively tried to shutdown things like Cloudcutter.
- bariumbitmap 1mo agoThis is sometimes called "the right to interoperate", similar to the right to repair movement. Unfortunately it has been less successful than right to repair so far. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/07/legislative-path-interoperable-internet https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/07/legislative-path-inter...
- utopiah 1mo agoWell that's a right, I'm asking for an actual interface, like USB-C or a protocol e.g. HTTP.
- bariumbitmap 1mo agoHow do you propose to convince appliance manufacturers to all use a freely accessible, standard interface without mandating it via legislation? It's been decades now, they're not going to do it of their own volition.