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I can achieve more with AI than without. What's the complain exactly? That AI still hasn't made my effort and thinking and directing and checking and ideas co

I can achieve more with AI than without. What's the complain exactly? That AI still hasn't made my effort and thinking and directing and checking and ideas completely redundant and thus out of job? It's like you people see everything in black and white and miss that most of the real world is a gradient of shades of grey and quite never full black or white.

latexr 20d ago
> It's like you people see everything in black and white and miss that most of the real world is a gradient of shades of grey and quite never full black or white. I’d go even further. Shades of grey implies two extremes on a linear scale, but the world has colour, meaning wildly different interpretations that go in novel directions. However, ironically, your comment reads to me as extremely black and white—full of certainty, rigidity, possibly some bad faith interpretation and straw manning—while the one you’re criticising has (some) nuance and doubt and seems open to the idea of being wrong.
owebmaster 20d ago
> What's the complain exactly? What complain? OP asked a question. Carmack created Doom, Quake in 2, 3 years. What has he created in 4 years of AI? Should be exceptional if one of the most productive programmers ever says it makes him more productive. What does he have to show?
- suby 20d ago
  You're comparing the challenge of building game engines in the 90's with the more open-ended AGI research. It's different enough that I don't think it's valid to conclude he's less productive now based on impact over time.
- skydhash 20d ago
  That reminds me of something on my last job. Before AI, we had not so good communication, but if we had a question, the person on the other end will try to give you a passable answer. After AI, everyone seems to be a proxy for the LLM tools they're using and any misleading statement you point out is answered by "Why don't you use $llm_tool to check it out?".
- epolanski 20d ago
  Silly question. He's doing research, not product work now.
  - owebmaster 20d ago
    So people are right to say he has nothing to show to back his claims.
    - tomrod 20d ago
      This is... not a great take.

latexr 20d ago

> It's like you people see everything in black and white and miss that most of the real world is a gradient of shades of grey and quite never full black or white. I’d go even further. Shades of grey implies two extremes on a linear scale, but the world has colour, meaning wildly different interpretations that go in novel directions. However, ironically, your comment reads to me as extremely black and white—full of certainty, rigidity, possibly some bad faith interpretation and straw manning—while the one you’re criticising has (some) nuance and doubt and seems open to the idea of being wrong.

owebmaster 20d ago

> What's the complain exactly? What complain? OP asked a question. Carmack created Doom, Quake in 2, 3 years. What has he created in 4 years of AI? Should be exceptional if one of the most productive programmers ever says it makes him more productive. What does he have to show?

suby 20d ago
You're comparing the challenge of building game engines in the 90's with the more open-ended AGI research. It's different enough that I don't think it's valid to conclude he's less productive now based on impact over time.
skydhash 20d ago
That reminds me of something on my last job. Before AI, we had not so good communication, but if we had a question, the person on the other end will try to give you a passable answer. After AI, everyone seems to be a proxy for the LLM tools they're using and any misleading statement you point out is answered by "Why don't you use $llm_tool to check it out?".
epolanski 20d ago
Silly question. He's doing research, not product work now.
- owebmaster 20d ago
  So people are right to say he has nothing to show to back his claims.
  - tomrod 20d ago
    This is... not a great take.