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could xhost(1) help here?
by wolfi1 21d ago
could xhost(1) help here?
- roryirvine 20d agoNot really - it's not sufficiently fine-grained and, besides, you need it to connect to X to display anything. There were various attempts to improve this situation in the early 2010s, typically using Xnest or Xephyr in conjunction with other sandboxing techniques. I believe Qubes OS followed that approach but it was awkward, limited, had major performance problems, and yet never managed to fully prevent circumvention. The fact is that the X model was never designed with these threats in mind.
- fsflover 19d ago> I believe Qubes OS followed that approach but it was awkward, limited, had major performance problems, and yet never managed to fully prevent circumvention. Not sure what you are talking about. Qubes offers reliable protection with decent performance, unless you work with graphics. See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49678250 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49678250
- cookiengineer 20d agoI think the only possibility that comes to mind is creating an ebpf module that sandboxes all filesystem calls and trampolines all ld_open calls. But then you would have to provide massive amounts of patched/"safe" variants of all kinds of shared libraries which is unfeasible. But I mean in the xorg use case it would be possible to just provide your own library that fakes the expected returns and sends fake data to the sandboxed applications. I did a similar thing with barrier (though using LD_PRELOAD, see [1]) on my debian system to force a different behavior. Source: Am kind of experimenting with ebpf a lot for that use case. C ABIs and SO files are a mess though. A real messy mess. [1] https://github.com/cookiengineer/barrier-disable-dpms https://github.com/cookiengineer/barrier-disable-dpms