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From personal experience in a small (total <10 people) company, we have definitely 10x our product in the last two years. What 4 devs did in 4 years have been d

From personal experience in a small (total <10 people) company, we have definitely 10x our product in the last two years. What 4 devs did in 4 years have been dwarfed by what 2 devs were able to do in 1 year with AI. I'm not so familiar with the giant companies, but from afar it seems like they already have practically all the code-writing capacity they wanted anyway. Google could say "let's build a browser" or "let's build a mobile phone OS" or "lets build an experimental Fuschia" and throw all the people they needed on it already.

Negitivefrags 19d ago
You might have delivered 10x more code, but did you deliver 10x more value? Or put another way, are you making 10x more money? It's easy to spend excess productivity effectively wasting time. Most companies did it before AI, and will continue doing it after. It's easy to believe you are not wasting time because you have more bugs fixed or more features delivered, but if it doesn't move the bottom line, what is the point?
- himata4113 19d ago
  I mean it doesn't have to bring 10x more value, but it can be a 10x better experience for existing users. There have been so many niche bugs that were never ever fixed because there's more important things to do, but because fixing a niche bug is now 1 click away that really changes the economics quite a bit especially for small teams. I'm personally working on a product solo that would not be possible without a team of 3-4 people that are all knowledgeable in that field and would take at least 1 year to get it started. It only took me 3 months to get a fully working solution with $1200 worth of AI subscriptions, the value multiplication is nearly x100 here.
  - eetde 19d ago
    With all due respect when you strip away the noise - unless it shows up in the financials it hasn’t done anything for the firm. This is something many firms are struggling to grasp.
    - himata4113 18d ago
      The world does not revolve around money, specifically non profits come to mind where this can be a huge boost in quality for everyone involved.
matherial 19d ago
Again, I've heard that countless times on HN. Every time you ask, everyone is 10xing it and building amazing things that will go to market very soon now. But it's been a while; where is it? Somehow, everyone is just sitting on all these revolutionary advances while selling the exact same stuff as they were selling before, with the same warts and the same annoyances. Gmail is the same, Chrome is the same, Photoshop is the same, Slack is the same, Excel is the same... the only thing that seems to have changed is how SWEs feel about their jobs.
- YeGoblynQueenne 19d ago
  To be fair, what revolution were you expecting to see, exactly? You can 10x a "dashboard but with AI" app all you want but it's only ever going to be a "dashboard but with AI" app. And I note that nobody seems to be claiming that the AI helped them create a brand new kind of app. Anyway, Sturgeon's law and all that.

Negitivefrags 19d ago

You might have delivered 10x more code, but did you deliver 10x more value? Or put another way, are you making 10x more money? It's easy to spend excess productivity effectively wasting time. Most companies did it before AI, and will continue doing it after. It's easy to believe you are not wasting time because you have more bugs fixed or more features delivered, but if it doesn't move the bottom line, what is the point?

himata4113 19d ago
I mean it doesn't have to bring 10x more value, but it can be a 10x better experience for existing users. There have been so many niche bugs that were never ever fixed because there's more important things to do, but because fixing a niche bug is now 1 click away that really changes the economics quite a bit especially for small teams. I'm personally working on a product solo that would not be possible without a team of 3-4 people that are all knowledgeable in that field and would take at least 1 year to get it started. It only took me 3 months to get a fully working solution with $1200 worth of AI subscriptions, the value multiplication is nearly x100 here.
- eetde 19d ago
  With all due respect when you strip away the noise - unless it shows up in the financials it hasn’t done anything for the firm. This is something many firms are struggling to grasp.
  - himata4113 18d ago
    The world does not revolve around money, specifically non profits come to mind where this can be a huge boost in quality for everyone involved.

matherial 19d ago

Again, I've heard that countless times on HN. Every time you ask, everyone is 10xing it and building amazing things that will go to market very soon now. But it's been a while; where is it? Somehow, everyone is just sitting on all these revolutionary advances while selling the exact same stuff as they were selling before, with the same warts and the same annoyances. Gmail is the same, Chrome is the same, Photoshop is the same, Slack is the same, Excel is the same... the only thing that seems to have changed is how SWEs feel about their jobs.

YeGoblynQueenne 19d ago
To be fair, what revolution were you expecting to see, exactly? You can 10x a "dashboard but with AI" app all you want but it's only ever going to be a "dashboard but with AI" app. And I note that nobody seems to be claiming that the AI helped them create a brand new kind of app. Anyway, Sturgeon's law and all that.