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How will carbon be removed by Frontier? Planting trees? Capturing carbon from industrial plants / byproduct from LNG extraction? Where will the extracted carb

• youngtaff 13d ago
  Reading Frontier’s website it’s very unclear how much they’re going to remove and how they’re going to do it - though there’s a lot of mentions of biomass Trouble with techies is they tend plumb for techie solutions like carbon capture aka ClimeWorks rather than low tech options like trees or seagrass
  • defrost 13d ago
    Trees and seagrass don't really address the sequestration side though, do they? The carbon they latch onto and temporarily hold onto is still within the land / sea surface +/- a few metres layer. The current largest scale carbon capture projects are catching a small amount of vented CO2 from LNG projects and pushing that back into the subsurface fields - they only capture 10 ton by releasing over a 100. We're in need of readily powered true air capture of CO2 then sequestered deep underground. Things like www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S036031992602269X have promise.
    • tito 13d ago
      Trees and seagrass can address the sequestration side. You can find examples here on Frontier's site of companies that are taking biomass (plant stuff like tree waste) and sequestering it in mines or other storage deep underground. When thinking about sucking carbon from the sky, I find it useful to separate how I think about grabbing on to carbon dioxide from how to store carbon dioxide, rather than thinking of it as one step. I find it's easy to get lost and either over or undervalue things otherwise. Plants and trees are excellent at grabbing on, for example, and with a good process they can lead to very cheap methods to store/remove carbon dioxide for a thousand years.
      • tito 13d ago
        Link to Frontier's biomass storage portfolio: https://frontierclimate.com/portfolio?pathway=biomass_carbon_removal_and_storage https://frontierclimate.com/portfolio?pathway=biomass_carbon...
      • defrost 12d ago
        I appreciate the response and note that it's precisely because I already separate both the acquisition of CO2 from the sky and direct acquisition from industrial processes well apart from the storage side that I correctly stated trees and seagrass aren't storage methods. How it's stored (and the energy used to store) matters. As you know - there's not much to argue about here, just a nod that it's best to be careful with words. As a further question, what's the most effective Direct Air Capture method actually working on your books so far, in terms of greatest tonnages, and where is that captured CO2 being stored.
    • youngtaff 11d ago
      Thanks I’ll have a proper read of the paper when I’m on a larger device Generally I’m skeptical of Carbon Capture and Storage schemes (and Hydrogen) as it’s a way for oils and gas companies to delay the transition to cleaner energy IMV hydrogen does have something of place in industrial processes e.g. reduction of iron ore, and maybe fuel cells but not for general combustion
  • tito 13d ago
    Here's Frontier's whole portfolio: https://frontierclimate.com/portfolio https://frontierclimate.com/portfolio Marine carbon removal: 16 Biomass carbon removal & storage: 13 Direct air capture: 12 Field weathering: 8 Mineralization: 8
• tito 13d ago
  Frontier has contracted $700M of carbon dioxide removal credits to date. You can find Frontier's portfolio here: https://frontierclimate.com/portfolio https://frontierclimate.com/portfolio And their perspectives on their process here: https://frontierclimate.com/pathway https://frontierclimate.com/pathway