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The suggestion to setup a separate iCloud account per kid is great, except that the TOS prohibits it for kids 12 and under: http://www.apple.com/legal/icloud/e
by robomartin 14y ago
The suggestion to setup a separate iCloud account per kid is great, except that the TOS prohibits it for kids 12 and under:
http://www.apple.com/legal/icloud/en/terms.html http://www.apple.com/legal/icloud/en/terms.html
With regards to the "proper" way to setup an iPod. I'd be willing to be that the vast majority of users have no clue whatsoever. I'd also be willing to bet that most users use the same login uid and pwd for both services, which means that when asked for credentials they automatically enter that info. Grandma has no clue as to the finer points of how to setup an iPod for the kids.
Aside from that, Apple gives no guidance whatsoever on "best practices". Users turn on the device and just enter what they are prompted to enter without any options to learn about the consequences of their choices. Given that, it is perfectly reasonable to expect most people to not even consider some of the posted ideas.
Most of the comments seem to have ignored the fundamental premise of my post:
Group account management and multi-user capabilities are sorely missing on iOS. There are a ton of use cases beyond the kids-with-ipods example. Yes, you can hack and patch your way around solving the specific issues I presented. We've already done it, of course. This is not a solution to the greater underlying issue.
Put plainly, I ought to be able to have full command of my "fleet" of iDevices as the administrator. This includes adding and removing users, enabling user access to different devices, selecting which apps are available to each user, selecting who can see what data (for example, photos) and managing guest accounts on the various devices.
It sounds complicated, but, well, either Apple is a great software/UI company or they are not. They ought to be able to make something like this usable.
Here's another use case for multiple accounts: Development. As far as I have been able to tell, there is no way to have a development and shipping version of your app on the same device. In other words, I want to be able to show and test my shipping app while, at the same time, also have my latest development build installed. I have to admit not having researched this too far, but it seems that it isn't possible. The only way is to actually call your development version something else. If you had multiuser capabilities you could have a "dev" user where all of your development builds and experiments could live. Your normal user would be nice and clean and only have the shipping version.
- ricardobeat 14y agoOne account per device is way simpler than your "fleet management" could ever be for home use.
- robomartin 14y agoHow so? - Purchase a new device. - Power it up. - It asks you if it should be setup individually or as part of a group. - You select group and enter the credentials. - It then navigates you through a set of sensible startup options to configure the device's primary user - Anything else you do online or through a dedicated group management app In the case of getting an iPod for a kid, you power the thing up, choose group, enter her name, check off the allowed apps from a list, enable other options (can they make purchases?) and you are pretty much done. Hand it to the kid and walk away. You can refine other setup items at a later time. I don't want my five year old to have an Apple ID or iCloud account. I just want her to have access to a dozen apps and that's it.
- ricardobeat 14y agoYou assume that you have a "group" set up in some other machine, and it needs to be powered up - or if this happens via the internet you need some kind of identification beforehand. If the kid is going to be able to make purchases, it will need a password (you don't want their friends or anyone else spending their credits). And all of this requires a special app or website with a management interface. My point is that this would create a whole new set of tools that you'd need to grasp. For comparison, steps for currently activating an independent device: - Purchase. - Power up. - Choose locale/etc settings. - Create new apple ID. - Enter your credentials in App Store. - Download apps. Hand it to the kid and walk away. None of this requires fumbling with settings on another machine. If you need to change settings, grab the iPod, change the settings.