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Sam Altman: I agree with Dario that we need to pace the frontier
- joegibbs 21d agoAre there any US-China talks going on here? Not much good if Deepseek decides to overtake them. China would surely be willing to negotiate considering that they’re not immune to AI damage.
- cyanydeez 21d agoOr, get this, LLMs are sigmoidal and theyre all in the burn cash for fuckall progress. Qwen3.8 is basically doing more with less and openai and anthropic built the equivelent of the American culture: all fat, little depth.
- cma 21d agoXi is supposed to visit the White House soon and there are supposed to be AI talks.
- dg2fgf 21d agoThey're not obligated to do anything.
- joegibbs 21d agoIt’s not about whether they’re obligated, it’s whether they have something to lose by not making a deal. It worked with CFCs.
- nerdyadventurer 21d agoAs I think they are already regulating things, unlike in US, oligarchs cannot control the govt in China. They crackdown the rich, before it is too late. ex: Jack Ma[1] You may listen to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1y_m8pKiKY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1y_m8pKiKY 1: https://www.dw.com/en/china-alibaba-founder-jack-ma-appears-for-first-time-since-government-crackdown/a-56282401 https://www.dw.com/en/china-alibaba-founder-jack-ma-appears-...
- aaron695 21d ago[dead]
- bitwize 21d agoSam: OK, Dario, you win. We're pacing the frontier. This is what you wanted. Dario: All right, frontier is paced! From now on, AI moves forward at a rate WE decide! [Kwindla Kramer bursts into the apartment] Kramer: You guys might want to sit down for this. You know that Chinese place down on 4th? They got a model that's smoking you guys at SWE benchmarks! [laughter, applause, slap bass intensifies]
- kelseyfrog 21d agoNever heard of verified slowdown?
- bitwize 20d agoVerifiable slowdown doesn't help you much if there are parties (like Chinese frontier labs) who didn't agree to the slowdown.
- kelseyfrog 20d agoVerified slowdown includes Chinese labs.
- bitwize 18d agoSays who? You? Because the Chinese have other ideas...
- naveen99 21d agoReminds me of when the colleges went sat free. Pacing human intelligence at the high school level.
- jgalt212 21d agobook pitch: On being sane in insane places: A tale from inside the marketing department of a frontier AI Lab.
- dg2fgf 21d agoTacit collusion. We meet again my friend!
- sm-silversight 21d ago100% getting ready to try and get congress to build them a regulatory moat. They were hoping those headline-incidents they staged would prompt a congressional hearing but our government is too inept right now to know its head from its ass much less do anything about AI
- siva7 21d agoThank god they've grown up and stop acting like dicks.
- dghlsakjg 21d agoI’m not nearly that generous with my opinion. An alternate read is that the entrenched leaders want to slow down development of competitors. If Dario or Sam A wants to slow down frontier model development because they believe there is an existential threat, they already have the power to do that single handedly. If I discovered that I had accidentally invented a doomsday machine, I wouldn’t be furiously providing access to anyone with a credit card.
- camkego 21d ago“Our competitors are our friends. Our customers are the enemy." This great quote was brought to us by executives in the 90s at Archer Daniel Midland, an agricultural company. That’s what comes to mind as I hear about the AI companies talk about pacing themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they want to reduce the risk of powerful AI doing bad things.