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I pay $200 month and literally have never a single time run out of usage, for Codex + Pro chat. It is better than DeepSeek and at least it supports a US company
by AaronAPU 19d ago
I pay $200 month and literally have never a single time run out of usage, for Codex + Pro chat. It is better than DeepSeek and at least it supports a US company. Your pain isn’t important to me.
- montroser 19d ago"Let them eat cake..." I'm glad that you have the luxury burn $200/mo. But that aside, it's not obvious to me that handing your pennies to an American company that is in cahoots with the American military, willing to self-censor at the direction of the American government, investing in large-scale raping of the planet to build new power plants data centers -- is better than handing your (20x fewer) pennies to a Chinese company who releases its models in the open, and is investing in efficiency so that we can run the same inference for a fraction of the resources.
- AaronAPU 19d agoI think most of us when you start typing stuff like that just roll our eyes and get on with our day.
- ricardobeat 19d agoNo doubt, it’s a lot easier not to care.
- Fizz43 19d agoYou can make the same argument about China. They are producing so much Co2 its pushed the world past the point of no return. All the climate change policy in the world cant change anything because china took so long to begin addressing the issue. They started nearly a decade and a half later than they ought to. But yeah american datacenters are the problem here...
- montroser 19d agoWhat you say is true about China and its global environmental impact. But, if you look at the net effect specifically of DeepSeek versus the net effect of Anthropic or OpenAI, where the investments are being made -- it's a different story.
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