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Fair. That doesn't mean we should throw our hands in the air. The genie is out of the bottle, we know the nature of the threat, and we've spent 25+ years figuri

Fair. That doesn't mean we should throw our hands in the air. The genie is out of the bottle, we know the nature of the threat, and we've spent 25+ years figuring out how to make distributed systems theoretically secure -- instead of trying to "slow AI research down" (which, again, is not going to happen) we could instead be yelling about NOW being the time to secure the shit out of your essential systems, train your staff, etc. Yes, an uphill battle, but more productive than trying to stop the train that's already left the station.

JumpCrisscross 22d ago
> doesn't mean we should throw our hands in the air Nobody is doing this. > instead of trying to "slow AI research down" (which, again, is not going to happen) The people who currently control AI are framing any attempt to weaken, share or regulate that control as slowing down AI research. That argument is broadly being rejected. In part because you can't simultaneously argue that something "is not going to happen" but also will happen if we regulate it.
- smallerfish 22d ago
  > Nobody is doing this. https://www.axios.com/2026/09/10/ai-investors-anthropic-doom https://www.axios.com/2026/09/10/ai-investors-anthropic-doom > In part because you can't simultaneously argue that something "is not going to happen" but also will happen if we regulate it. Even if the US regulates it (not going to happen: cf Trump administration), China won't, because it's a competitive advantage against the US to have better AI.
  - watwut 22d ago
    Yeah, but actual roque threat is the US based AI. China is building their AI for business, military and goverment reasons. It is eventually bound to be good at that. American companies do it to build an independent AI god that is going to kill us all. And to blow the financial bubble a little bit more. So, American regulation would in fact deal with the prinary threat to humanity.

JumpCrisscross 22d ago

> doesn't mean we should throw our hands in the air Nobody is doing this. > instead of trying to "slow AI research down" (which, again, is not going to happen) The people who currently control AI are framing any attempt to weaken, share or regulate that control as slowing down AI research. That argument is broadly being rejected. In part because you can't simultaneously argue that something "is not going to happen" but also will happen if we regulate it.

smallerfish 22d ago
> Nobody is doing this. https://www.axios.com/2026/09/10/ai-investors-anthropic-doom https://www.axios.com/2026/09/10/ai-investors-anthropic-doom > In part because you can't simultaneously argue that something "is not going to happen" but also will happen if we regulate it. Even if the US regulates it (not going to happen: cf Trump administration), China won't, because it's a competitive advantage against the US to have better AI.
- watwut 22d ago
  Yeah, but actual roque threat is the US based AI. China is building their AI for business, military and goverment reasons. It is eventually bound to be good at that. American companies do it to build an independent AI god that is going to kill us all. And to blow the financial bubble a little bit more. So, American regulation would in fact deal with the prinary threat to humanity.