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> For actual web search I actually like using Yandex You might want to reconsider this. https://meduza.io/image/attachments/images/007/699/276/large/0FkizTYqq

> For actual web search I actually like using Yandex You might want to reconsider this. https://meduza.io/image/attachments/images/007/699/276/large/0FkizTYqq7SGCdZBNIeoyg.jpg https://meduza.io/image/attachments/images/007/699/276/large...

BoingBoomTschak 14d ago
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- moffkalast 14d ago
  Bold to assume Russian propaganda is not aimed at the west.
  - BoingBoomTschak 14d ago
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    - squidbeak 14d ago
      Naivete and scorn of autism in one short sentence - you're very efficient. Yandex.com is the international front end to yandex, and not a portal for 'a handful of western autists'. But on Russia's granular propaganda and disinformation efforts, you ought to read Peter Pomerantsev's excellent "This is Not Propaganda" before making silly sweeping statements.
somenameforme 14d ago
Meduza gonna Meduza. Go do the search yourself. I get nothing like what Meduza claims.
- egorfine 14d ago
  Yeah I did while I was in Kiev at the time. Did not screenshot unfortunately but yeah that's what Yandex did show for many "Bucha" search terms.
- codedokode 14d ago
  Yandex censors the results, it is required by law, so I do not understand what are you arguing against. To be specific, any URLs, which are blacklisted and banned in Russia, must be omitted from search results. Which includes BBC and other Western media and explains the difference in images because in the Google's results the images come from BBC and Voice of America. Also, if you try to search for "download Chrome" (in Russian) then the first result in Yandex leads to a scammy website: https://ibb.co/HDRJGgZD https://ibb.co/HDRJGgZD The real link is the second one, but I remember a year ago or so there was no official link at all. You can also note that official link to Google has a grey text saying: "the owner of the resource violates Russian law" (Yandex is required to show this notification). Yandex has also been caught "accidentally" removing the site of Ekaterina Duntsova who was planning to nominate for presidential election in 2024, and showed fake/phishing sites instead. So, Yandex is only good for searching torrents/pirated movies (which you can watch on rutube) and nothing more.
  - efilife 13d ago
    > I do not understand what are you arguing against. Re-read the comment you replied to, and the one above
wongarsu 14d ago
Absolutely. Where google is shaping results "to please corpo-political masters", Yandex is obviously influenced by the Kreml I use Kagi as my daily driver. But there are some kinds of queries where my interests and Yandex's interests happen to align. Mostly anything corporate America wouldn't like, like evil copyright-infringing websites
- egorfine 14d ago
  I sort of agree with you.
efilife 14d ago
https://yandex.com/images/search?from=tabbar&text=%D0%B1%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0 https://yandex.com/images/search?from=tabbar&text=%D0%B1%D1%... For everyone to make the search themselves
- uliqquel 13d ago
  Apparently it was only valid for a day or so. Whether they fixed it due to backlash or actually was the algorithm I cannot tell > Yandex said its image algorithm normally gave low priority to very recent material for a bare place-name query, because historically someone searching a city name was usually looking for ordinary pictures of the city.
  - egorfine 12d ago
    > Yandex said That's a lie. I was unable to force it to show me pictures of the massacre no matter which search terms I tried to use. And that was many many days after the fact. Like, weeks.
uliqquel 13d ago
Google is no better https://boingboing.net/2004/05/26/tech-question-about.html https://boingboing.net/2004/05/26/tech-question-about.html

BoingBoomTschak 14d ago

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moffkalast 14d ago
Bold to assume Russian propaganda is not aimed at the west.
- BoingBoomTschak 14d ago
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  - squidbeak 14d ago
    Naivete and scorn of autism in one short sentence - you're very efficient. Yandex.com is the international front end to yandex, and not a portal for 'a handful of western autists'. But on Russia's granular propaganda and disinformation efforts, you ought to read Peter Pomerantsev's excellent "This is Not Propaganda" before making silly sweeping statements.

somenameforme 14d ago

Meduza gonna Meduza. Go do the search yourself. I get nothing like what Meduza claims.

egorfine 14d ago
Yeah I did while I was in Kiev at the time. Did not screenshot unfortunately but yeah that's what Yandex did show for many "Bucha" search terms.
codedokode 14d ago
Yandex censors the results, it is required by law, so I do not understand what are you arguing against. To be specific, any URLs, which are blacklisted and banned in Russia, must be omitted from search results. Which includes BBC and other Western media and explains the difference in images because in the Google's results the images come from BBC and Voice of America. Also, if you try to search for "download Chrome" (in Russian) then the first result in Yandex leads to a scammy website: https://ibb.co/HDRJGgZD https://ibb.co/HDRJGgZD The real link is the second one, but I remember a year ago or so there was no official link at all. You can also note that official link to Google has a grey text saying: "the owner of the resource violates Russian law" (Yandex is required to show this notification). Yandex has also been caught "accidentally" removing the site of Ekaterina Duntsova who was planning to nominate for presidential election in 2024, and showed fake/phishing sites instead. So, Yandex is only good for searching torrents/pirated movies (which you can watch on rutube) and nothing more.
- efilife 13d ago
  > I do not understand what are you arguing against. Re-read the comment you replied to, and the one above

wongarsu 14d ago

Absolutely. Where google is shaping results "to please corpo-political masters", Yandex is obviously influenced by the Kreml I use Kagi as my daily driver. But there are some kinds of queries where my interests and Yandex's interests happen to align. Mostly anything corporate America wouldn't like, like evil copyright-infringing websites

egorfine 14d ago
I sort of agree with you.

efilife 14d ago

https://yandex.com/images/search?from=tabbar&text=%D0%B1%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B0 https://yandex.com/images/search?from=tabbar&text=%D0%B1%D1%... For everyone to make the search themselves

uliqquel 13d ago
Apparently it was only valid for a day or so. Whether they fixed it due to backlash or actually was the algorithm I cannot tell > Yandex said its image algorithm normally gave low priority to very recent material for a bare place-name query, because historically someone searching a city name was usually looking for ordinary pictures of the city.
- egorfine 12d ago
  > Yandex said That's a lie. I was unable to force it to show me pictures of the massacre no matter which search terms I tried to use. And that was many many days after the fact. Like, weeks.

uliqquel 13d ago

Google is no better https://boingboing.net/2004/05/26/tech-question-about.html https://boingboing.net/2004/05/26/tech-question-about.html