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GrapheneOS has made a big push to hire a bunch of experienced, talented app devs, and they have been slowly chipping away at Messaging for a few months. They no
by HybridStatAnim8 22d ago
GrapheneOS has made a big push to hire a bunch of experienced, talented app devs, and they have been slowly chipping away at Messaging for a few months. They now have the resources to take on the AOSP apps and resume with the GrapheneOS apps. The rest of the AOSP apps are also planned to be overhauled.
They also plan to eventually support RCS in the Messaging app.
- mmooss 22d ago> GrapheneOS has made a big push to hire a bunch of experienced, talented app devs That's great. How can a FOSS project afford that? Where does GOS money come from? Did Daniel win the lottery?
- Cider9986 22d agoThey get most of their donations from cryptocurrency. Mostly small Monero donations but also Bitcoin and Ethereum. They have 14 devs 13 are payed in ETH and 1 in CAD. Iirc they said something like 2 million in donations in 2025. Vitalik Buterin may have donated at least some time ago. Proton donates double digits. Cape has donated around 100k https://www.cape.co/blog/cape-supports-grapheneos https://www.cape.co/blog/cape-supports-grapheneos and plans to donate 100k this year. There's estimated 500k users so if 25% donated 10 dollars a year that's 1.25 million.
- mmooss 22d agoThank you! Though I still wonder: > Iirc they said something like 2 million in donations in 2025. That's not enough for 14 devs, plus infrastructure, etc. > There's estimated 500k users so if 25% donated 10 dollars a year that's 1.25 million. Unfortunately, 25% would be extraordinary for any project. They should make their financing public (and maybe they do), being a non-profit and also asking people to trust them with their security. Funding provides influence: if 50% came from adtech or public surveillance companies (e.g., Flock, Palantir, etc.), then people would have questions.
- Cider9986 22d agoHere's more info https://xprivate.lol/GrapheneOS/search?f=tweets&q=Donation&since=&until=&min_faves= https://xprivate.lol/GrapheneOS/search?f=tweets&q=Donation&s... >plus infrastructure A lot must be sponsored. https://xprivate.lol/GrapheneOS/status/2070298479897833725#m https://xprivate.lol/GrapheneOS/status/2070298479897833725#m I expect the official account will give you a reply besides my speculation. They've stated that all money comes from donations.
- HybridStatAnim8 22d agoYeah it is. Their infrastructure costs are super tiny, the biggest percent of funding goes to pay the dev team, and many are paid a wage comparable to where they live, they dont get inflated US software dev wages or anything. Most of what they earn is public as a result of the donation method, like crypto. And most donors are completely anonymous. GrapheneOS does not accept any funding with strings attached.
- gib444 22d ago> GrapheneOS does not accept any funding with strings attached. What role do you have the project? Or where is their public commitment to that statement?
- HybridStatAnim8 22d agoI have no role in the project and that has been stated many times on social media.
- microtonal 22d agoUnfortunately, 25% would be extraordinary for any project. Though they were stating $10 per year. You only need 2.1% of the users to donate $10 monthly to get to the same amount. I think GrapheneOS is one of those projects that is really important to their users, so I wouldn't be surprised if more than 2% of the users donated monthly.
- grapheneos 22d ago
- HybridStatAnim8 22d agoGrapheneOS makes 100% of their money off of donations, and have made quite a lot of it. The bottleneck is not funding, but finding talented developers to pay with that money.
- grapheneos 22d agoGrapheneOS is entirely funded by donations. We're not yet spending nearly enough yet relative to the amount of donations we're receiving.