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What does success look like?

by timcobb 22d ago

kibwen 22d ago
There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always—do not forget this, timcobb—always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless^W not also subscribed to ChatGPT. If you want a picture of the future [of math], imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever.
- timcobb 22d ago
  > Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory If only though, because: > There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life
- int_19h 22d ago
  > There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. How does the ability or inability of AI to do something blocks your curiosity or enjoyment of the process of life? Not being able to pay bills because you're out of job does ruin the enjoyment of life, sure. But the AI is not the problem there; the economic system is. Torches and pitchforks should be properly applied to the economic and the political elites, not to data centers.
  - timcobb 21d ago
    > But the AI is not the problem there; the economic system is These two things are surely related eh? > Torches and pitchforks should be properly applied to the economic and the political elites, not to data centers. What's the difference between these? You can't actually separate them meaningfully, unless you, uh, nationalize the data centers at which point... :|
    - int_19h 20d ago
      > These two things are surely related eh? Not really, no? If anything AI is the tech that is the most likely to disrupt this economic system beyond the point of recovery. > What's the difference between these? The difference is that one is a piece of hardware, and another is the person deciding what that hardware will do, and to what ends. > unless you, uh, nationalize the data centers at which point... The data centers are not the problem. The fact that you need to be employed to have any kind of decent living at the same time when automation is getting good enough to displace people en masse across most industries is the problem. You don't even need to go full socialist to solve that! Just tax AI providers on their revenue proportional to the number of jobs displaced by it, and use those funds as a pension for the displaced workers.

What does success look like?

by timcobb 22d ago

What does success look like?

There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always—do not forget this, timcobb—always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless^W not also subscribed to ChatGPT. If you want a picture of the future [of math], imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever.

timcobb 22d ago
> Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory If only though, because: > There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life
int_19h 22d ago
> There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. How does the ability or inability of AI to do something blocks your curiosity or enjoyment of the process of life? Not being able to pay bills because you're out of job does ruin the enjoyment of life, sure. But the AI is not the problem there; the economic system is. Torches and pitchforks should be properly applied to the economic and the political elites, not to data centers.
- timcobb 21d ago
  > But the AI is not the problem there; the economic system is These two things are surely related eh? > Torches and pitchforks should be properly applied to the economic and the political elites, not to data centers. What's the difference between these? You can't actually separate them meaningfully, unless you, uh, nationalize the data centers at which point... :|
  - int_19h 20d ago
    > These two things are surely related eh? Not really, no? If anything AI is the tech that is the most likely to disrupt this economic system beyond the point of recovery. > What's the difference between these? The difference is that one is a piece of hardware, and another is the person deciding what that hardware will do, and to what ends. > unless you, uh, nationalize the data centers at which point... The data centers are not the problem. The fact that you need to be employed to have any kind of decent living at the same time when automation is getting good enough to displace people en masse across most industries is the problem. You don't even need to go full socialist to solve that! Just tax AI providers on their revenue proportional to the number of jobs displaced by it, and use those funds as a pension for the displaced workers.