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These changes will last exactly as long as this administration, so it would be a pretty foolish business that makes long term investment decisions based on this

These changes will last exactly as long as this administration, so it would be a pretty foolish business that makes long term investment decisions based on this announcement.

amluto 15d ago
The changes may not last, but it’s quite unusual for an already-permitted facility to lose permission to operate.
- snowwrestler 14d ago
  A lot of unusual things are happening in government lately.
imglorp 15d ago
It's a pretty foolish business plan to depend on wrecking the planet. I get one small comfort knowing that Wall Street will be increasingly under water as the climate disaster progresses (remember Sandy?).
- bayindirh 15d ago
  > It's a pretty foolish business plan to depend on wrecking the planet. People who thinks they need the planet to survive until they die sees it as a great opportunity to reap the value they generated over their lifetime. It's very shortsighted and foolish desire.
- htrp 15d ago
  wall street already moved to higher ground
  - genxy 15d ago
    Wall Street will just move to Mars.
- mlindner 14d ago
  And how will building data centers wreck the planet?
  - wallst07 14d ago
    They won't, it's hyperbole.
  - imglorp 13d ago
    Heat and pollution emissions. All those unregulated gas turbines, starting with Grok and extending to everyone else through EPA dismemberment. https://electrek.co/2026/07/14/musk-buys-gas-turbine-company-apr-energy-grok/ https://electrek.co/2026/07/14/musk-buys-gas-turbine-company... https://floodlightnews.org/new-jersey-data-center-federal-violation/ https://floodlightnews.org/new-jersey-data-center-federal-vi...
- wallst07 14d ago
  Where do you live so I can get that same feeling? I was in BPC during Sandy, never lost power, never had flooding. Stayed around to help get our servers moved over to DR. So yes, I remember. Thankfully, people are seeing how bad NY and CA State governments are and are wisely moving what they can out of it. https://www.txse.com/ https://www.txse.com/
testing22321 15d ago
What are the odds right now this administration is still in power in 2030?
- bigfishrunning 15d ago
  Almost zero. The party may still be, but the administration almost certainly won't.
  - josefresco 15d ago
    Currently there is no "Republican party" just Trump loyalists. In 2030 the party might still be called the same but I doubt it will have moved far from the principles of today.
    - dpkirchner 15d ago
      The Republican party looks about the same as it has my whole adult life -- the leader is a lot louder and the racism is less hidden, that's about it.
      - snowwrestler 14d ago
        I don’t know how old you are but the GOP has 180’d on trade, international relations, unions, Social Security, and Medicare among many other issues over the past 30 years.
- tremon 15d ago
  What are the odds of this regime ceding power willingly in 2028?
shevy-java 15d ago
Well, in part you are correct but look how the billionaires set up Vance as the next "elected" boss right now - it is quite a lot in the recent media, how Vance single-handedly rescues babies at night while being blindfolded. I think these anti-people changes that are harmful to them, will remain. Trump is just the old dementia guy; Vance "my eyeliners are perfect" will follow after "winning" the next election. And then nobody will admit to ever having voted for him - and people will be very befuddled, almost as if an oligarchy runs the show.
- roughly 15d ago
  Vance’s problem is that whenever he walks into the room at least half the crowd covers their drinks. He’s got absolutely negative charisma. It’s the same reason Ron DeSantis, Mike Pence, and Ted Cruz couldn’t win the big chair - for all Trump’s… Trump-ness, people actually want to follow him. The rest of that cohort sets off people’s uncanny valley detectors - they’re just viscerally unappealing.
hn993302 15d ago
It'll last exactly as long as the Republicans being in power, which could be longer than this administration.
roughly 15d ago
The bet is that the democrats won’t have the spine to force AI companies to eat a loss on half a trillion dollars worth of data centers, and it’s frankly a pretty good one.

These changes will last exactly as long as this administration, so it would be a pretty foolish business that makes long term investment decisions based on this announcement.

amluto 15d ago

The changes may not last, but it’s quite unusual for an already-permitted facility to lose permission to operate.

snowwrestler 14d ago
A lot of unusual things are happening in government lately.

imglorp 15d ago

It's a pretty foolish business plan to depend on wrecking the planet. I get one small comfort knowing that Wall Street will be increasingly under water as the climate disaster progresses (remember Sandy?).

bayindirh 15d ago
> It's a pretty foolish business plan to depend on wrecking the planet. People who thinks they need the planet to survive until they die sees it as a great opportunity to reap the value they generated over their lifetime. It's very shortsighted and foolish desire.
htrp 15d ago
wall street already moved to higher ground
- genxy 15d ago
  Wall Street will just move to Mars.
mlindner 14d ago
And how will building data centers wreck the planet?
- wallst07 14d ago
  They won't, it's hyperbole.
- imglorp 13d ago
  Heat and pollution emissions. All those unregulated gas turbines, starting with Grok and extending to everyone else through EPA dismemberment. https://electrek.co/2026/07/14/musk-buys-gas-turbine-company-apr-energy-grok/ https://electrek.co/2026/07/14/musk-buys-gas-turbine-company... https://floodlightnews.org/new-jersey-data-center-federal-violation/ https://floodlightnews.org/new-jersey-data-center-federal-vi...
wallst07 14d ago
Where do you live so I can get that same feeling? I was in BPC during Sandy, never lost power, never had flooding. Stayed around to help get our servers moved over to DR. So yes, I remember. Thankfully, people are seeing how bad NY and CA State governments are and are wisely moving what they can out of it. https://www.txse.com/ https://www.txse.com/

testing22321 15d ago

What are the odds right now this administration is still in power in 2030?

bigfishrunning 15d ago
Almost zero. The party may still be, but the administration almost certainly won't.
- josefresco 15d ago
  Currently there is no "Republican party" just Trump loyalists. In 2030 the party might still be called the same but I doubt it will have moved far from the principles of today.
  - dpkirchner 15d ago
    The Republican party looks about the same as it has my whole adult life -- the leader is a lot louder and the racism is less hidden, that's about it.
    - snowwrestler 14d ago
      I don’t know how old you are but the GOP has 180’d on trade, international relations, unions, Social Security, and Medicare among many other issues over the past 30 years.
tremon 15d ago
What are the odds of this regime ceding power willingly in 2028?

shevy-java 15d ago

Well, in part you are correct but look how the billionaires set up Vance as the next "elected" boss right now - it is quite a lot in the recent media, how Vance single-handedly rescues babies at night while being blindfolded. I think these anti-people changes that are harmful to them, will remain. Trump is just the old dementia guy; Vance "my eyeliners are perfect" will follow after "winning" the next election. And then nobody will admit to ever having voted for him - and people will be very befuddled, almost as if an oligarchy runs the show.

roughly 15d ago
Vance’s problem is that whenever he walks into the room at least half the crowd covers their drinks. He’s got absolutely negative charisma. It’s the same reason Ron DeSantis, Mike Pence, and Ted Cruz couldn’t win the big chair - for all Trump’s… Trump-ness, people actually want to follow him. The rest of that cohort sets off people’s uncanny valley detectors - they’re just viscerally unappealing.

hn993302 15d ago

It'll last exactly as long as the Republicans being in power, which could be longer than this administration.

roughly 15d ago

The bet is that the democrats won’t have the spine to force AI companies to eat a loss on half a trillion dollars worth of data centers, and it’s frankly a pretty good one.