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> This already exposes that you are not a hacker. The irony of discussing the importance of openness in the things you own with such a closed-minded worldview

by jsolson 14y ago

> This already exposes that you are not a hacker. The irony of discussing the importance of openness in the things you own with such a closed-minded worldview about the people you interact with is palpable.

w1ntermute 14y ago
I am merely applying the long-accepted definition of a well-known term to a new situation that is relatively straightforward. The only thing that is palpable here is the cognitive dissonance you are attempting to ignore as you reconcile your love of Apple products with your desire to be considered a hacker. Note that I am not saying there is anything inherently wrong with liking or using Apple products. They clearly appeal to a significant number of people. Just don't delude yourself into believing that that makes you a hacker, because it's not fooling most of the rest of us.
- danieldk 14y ago
  Just don't delude yourself into believing that that makes you a hacker, because it's not fooling most of the rest of us. From The New Hacker's Dictionary: 1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. 2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. 3. A person capable of appreciating hack value. 4. A person who is good at programming quickly. 5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in `a Unix hacker'. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.) 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example. 7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations. Source: http://www.outpost9.com/reference/jargon/jargon_23.html#SEC30 http://www.outpost9.com/reference/jargon/jargon_23.html#SEC3... So, where is the "you shall use Android or Linux" requirement? Oh, I see, The New Hacker's Dictionary is wrong and not true to the law either. Really, why do people even care?

by jsolson 14y ago

w1ntermute 14y ago

I am merely applying the long-accepted definition of a well-known term to a new situation that is relatively straightforward. The only thing that is palpable here is the cognitive dissonance you are attempting to ignore as you reconcile your love of Apple products with your desire to be considered a hacker. Note that I am not saying there is anything inherently wrong with liking or using Apple products. They clearly appeal to a significant number of people. Just don't delude yourself into believing that that makes you a hacker, because it's not fooling most of the rest of us.

danieldk 14y ago
Just don't delude yourself into believing that that makes you a hacker, because it's not fooling most of the rest of us. From The New Hacker's Dictionary: 1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. 2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. 3. A person capable of appreciating hack value. 4. A person who is good at programming quickly. 5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in `a Unix hacker'. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.) 6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example. 7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations. Source: http://www.outpost9.com/reference/jargon/jargon_23.html#SEC30 http://www.outpost9.com/reference/jargon/jargon_23.html#SEC3... So, where is the "you shall use Android or Linux" requirement? Oh, I see, The New Hacker's Dictionary is wrong and not true to the law either. Really, why do people even care?