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We chose this and we're still choosing it right now.
by mitxela 2mo ago
We chose this and we're still choosing it right now.
- alangibson 2mo agoAgree. It's been my position for a while that we've de facto decided to do nothing to prevent warming and we'll just live with the consequences.
- FLeXMurphy 2mo agoStrong agree on this. I don't think I could do nothing any harder than I already am. Could you? Could any of us?
- encomiast 2mo agoSome people are clearly doing less nothing: there are activists protesting, formal political action groups, scientists doing research, etc. What isn't as clear is whether any this can actually overcome the huge social and economic structural issues to actually make a dent.
- dryd3n 2mo agoWhen I was initially thinking about my personal impact to this, the first thing that came to mind is air-travel. I don't travel much, maybe once a year to see family. I have some friends who fly several times a year to "see the world", being well-traveled is a part of their personality. But I think I may be wrong on flight being a significant contribution. My guess is that we probably all contribute to this mainly through our SP500 index investments, which financially supports a number of companies that directly contribute to global warming. We're "voting with our dollars" as they say. Maybe we can all start picking individual stocks based on environmental values/promises, and less short-term gain. Somehow, I don't think it'll happen.
- CalRobert 2mo agoA flight can be a few tonnes of carbon. A European might emit ten tonnes a year. It’s pretty significant. For ourselves ( electric heating, well insulated house, no beef and low meat, no car )a flight can be half the year’s emissions. The VOTE etf could be interesting to you.
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- CalRobert 2mo agoFind a job from climate base, inclimate, etc
- kpil 2mo agoThe CMIP7 scenarios were just released. AR7 is not yet completed but it's the input for it. The "worst" RCP8.5 / SSP5-8.5-style futures (coal-dominated, ~4.4–4.9 °C) are no longer treated as plausible given policy already in place, renewable cost declines, and observed emissions. The policy changes have changed the projections. Warming will continue, yes. The consequences will have to be dealt with. In some regions this will be problematic. It's still political and economical factors that determines the outcome. It's worth noting that there is a fair amount of eschatology or even apocalypticism going on. It's built into the human mind somehow.
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- justin66 2mo ago> The "worst" RCP8.5 / SSP5-8.5-style futures (coal-dominated, ~4.4–4.9 °C) are no longer treated as plausible That's a strange way of structuring such a comment. The temperature increase and concomitant catastrophes are still on the table, what was considered the plausible worst-case scenario with regard to how early that particular milestone might be reached has (apparently) been pushed back.
- tito 2mo agoI've decided that I'm going to reverse climate change and everyone is welcome to come with me to figure it out.
- defrost 2mo agoIf you're going to go networking in New York, maybe see if anyone is interested in running a study / pilot project on pushing carbonated water into ultramafic rock to kick start self powered (via hydrogen) carbon capture. ~ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49605466 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49605466
- encomiast 2mo agoThis does seem to be the result of human activity. But I'm not really sure how the words 'we' and 'choose' work in a sentence like that. The collective of humanity doesn't really make choices the way I understand that word. And, while individual citizens make choices that contribute to this, and business people and politicians make choices that prioritize the short-term over the long term, it's not really correct to say they prefer and therefor choose the climate change. It seems like we don't have a good vocabulary for talking about the cumulative results of small choices.
- latexr 2mo agoI get what you’re saying, but that doesn’t seem helpful. We don’t need to discuss better words to describe the intricacies of the situation, we need to do something about it. It also doesn’t help to keep saying “this does seem to be the result of human activity”. “Seems to be”? It is, the science has been clear on that for a long time. But even if it wasn’t our fault, it would still be our responsibility to fix it. Because, you know, we live on the planet. If I’m inside a house and it catches on fire, I’m not going to kick back on the sofa and not do anything because I didn’t start the fire. If it started because a group of idiots decided to launch fireworks inside, I’m not going to argue semantics about who exactly thought it was a good idea and who didn’t—the fucking house is on fire—what we need is for everyone to work together right now to put it out.
- encomiast 2mo agoThe problem is that saying "we need to do something" is equally unhelpful because "we" isn't a thing that takes action in any ordinary sense of the word. You are just putting words together in a syntactically correct order that are devoid of actionable meaning. The way this sentence is normally interpreted is, somebody needs to do something, but it's not clear who that somebody is, or what power they need in order to act on a large enough scale to be effective. If you can't say with any clarity what action needs to take place and by whom, then you aren't really contributing to a solution. Reacting to a fire in a house is much easier because it is clear how individual action can help. For example: you can call the fire department, I can get a fire extinguisher. Notice the word "we" is not in those sentences.
- a1exyz 2mo agoi am doing something about it personally with the citizens climate lobby
- tito 2mo agoThanks for what you do! Here's a recent post on my newsletter about recognizing those who do the work: https://tito.co/posts/why-dont-i-complain-about-carbon-dioxide-removal-startups https://tito.co/posts/why-dont-i-complain-about-carbon-dioxi...
- miroljub 2mo agoWe? Ever heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles ?
- defrost 2mo agoYes, us - maybe scroll down to the part that points out Milankovitch cycles alone predict the earth should be cooling now (it isn't) and that non-orbital effects can be important (for example, the human impact on the environment principally increases greenhouse gases resulting in a warmer climate) So, nice deflection attempt - but no prize.
- miroljub 2mo agoMilanković cycles predict cooling on a thousand years scale, and what we measure is just a glitch. The part you cite is climate conspiracy theory framing.