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Show HN: Hacker News, Without AI
- ChrisArchitect 22d agoCurrent thread: Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850
- metalliqaz 22d agoIt would be funny if this was vibe coded.
- otherayden 22d agohehe
- ethmarks 22d agoIt is > Ironically, this project was built with AI coding and uses AI to filter out articles about AI. Go figure. https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai
- nilsherzig 22d ago"Made with <3 by ..." Yea it is
- otherayden 22d agoI did this on purpose, I do not think AI would leave that in lol
- nilsherzig 22d agoyea fair, probably not
- bana-io 22d agoI actually like the look of this, I especially like being able to set a serif font instead of whatever default is on https://news.ycombinator.com https://news.ycombinator.com.
- nphardon 22d agoThis is the first attempt I've seen that seems to be working. I like that it's just a acting as a filter and the comment section is linked to the hackernews source. It's really satisfying to not see any Ai bs. I do like how hackernews is limited to 30 front page posts.
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- bhanu786 22d agoIt is espically god for AI researchers like me, is there any other resource, if you knowe would love to explore it
- testaccount121 22d agoOn the front page: Show HN: Hacker News, Without AI (unslop.news) Hacker News with reduced priority for AI driven content (sprinklz.io) Show HN: Hacker News, without AI (hcker.news) Three anti AI HN things on the front page at the same time. Two with the same title. This is spam.
- jefurii 22d agoI think it's useful, and maybe an indication of something positive.
- kazinator 22d agoBut have you heard of https://unslop.news https://unslop.news? If you look at HN through that, the above AI-related spam disappears.
- allknowingfrog 22d agoOr maybe it reflects a genuine desire from some subset of regular HN readers? Is it spam when three different articles about the latest Anthropic model make the front page? Or the latest Apple product release?
- teiferer 22d agoCurrently there is an article about feeling sad w.r.t. AI on the front page. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49661506 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49661506 That one is filtered out too. Surely nobody is going to claim that it is slop?
- drusepth 22d agoI mean, that post /is/ entirely about AI. The "I love AI" posts are just as bad as the "I hate AI" posts, and the same "this is my opinion on AI" posts are as bad as the onslaught of poorly-AI-vibed demo posts. Makes sense to filter them all out IMO.
- gnfargbl 22d agoDoes "without AI" mean without posts about AI, or without posts written by AI? I think this is the former, but I want the latter.
- otherayden 22d agoI'm the creator, and it is the former. I will consider spending some money on one of the available "AI detector" APIs and making a similar site for the latter. My main problem with them, though, is that I don't think they work very well and even if they work now, I imagine they'd be perpetually behind the newest models
- evgenysokov 22d agoThis is a filter for articles about AI, not articles written by AI. I'd actually use the latter. As for the "no AI here" badge, people will soon just put it up themselves. Like llms.txt: you add it, and nobody checks.
- elif 22d agoto certain people, it's all one-in-the-same. the real motivations behind this are a kind of existential human narcissism, a kind of denial-based coping mechanism grounded in a world-view that this industrial-revolution-scale change on society is somehow a passing phase.
- otherayden 22d agotouch grass
- elif 22d agoi suppose the correct retort would be to advise you to get your head out of it.
- kazinator 22d agoSubmissions of articles written by AI should be flagged on the upstream HN, as should be comments written by AI.
- lilbigdoot 22d agoNgl it would be kinda fun for everyone to meme with each other on slop mode in slop threads
- nilsherzig 22d agoThere you go :) https://hnslop.nilsherzig.com/ https://hnslop.nilsherzig.com/ as an extension so you can continue to comment and use hn as usual
- Tubelord 22d agounslop.news IS slop btw: https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai
- graypegg 22d agoHuh... it's not even that hard of a problem to solve right? Maybe I'm insane, but I feel like this is easier to crank out in rails or something than sloppin' it. It's a singular page, with some filtering on one model + a job to add entries on a regular basis with an API call out to openanthrogemingptai. We do get the the pinnicle of software quality though: parsing HTML with regex. https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai/blob/007e7b4a6df6fb35473f31cf03d3647e01713a8c/lib/hn.ts#L91 https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai/blob/007e7b4a6df6...
- otherayden 22d agolol it works though doesn't it?
- graypegg 22d agoOh I'm just saying this would be faster to make with a framework and... traditional coding or whatever I'm told to call my job now. If you're talking about parsing HTML with regex... buddy that IS the pinnacle of software quality. I'm sure... nay convinced, that HTML is fully parseable with regular expressions. We were just waiting for one very special boy to ask Claude for it, and today, the world hath received the fruits from a tree we planted long ago... thank you.
- bnchrch 22d agoYes please, take all the bleeding edge tech stories out of the aggregator I go to for bleeding edge tech stories.
- otherayden 22d agoYes, bleeding edge tech story = tech story primarily focused on AI
- Plont 22d agoI was unaware that technological progress stopped for everything but LLMs. All other types of technology have achieved their final forms. Wow. Seriously though, every AI story feels the same lately. There's: 1. company wants or gets more compute 2. IPO 3. AI slop is bad 4. AI Company Executive says something batshit (often because IPO) It's gotten pretty boring to read more than the headline for most of these. It doesn't feel bleeding edge so much as repetitive.
- Plont 22d agoI was unaware that technological progress stopped for everything but LLMs. All other types of technology have achieved their final forms. Wow. Seriously though, every AI story feels the same lately. There's: 1. company wants or gets more compute 2. IPO 3. AI slop is bad 4. AI company executive says something batshit (often because IPO) It's gotten pretty boring to read more than the headline for most of these.
- zephyrthenoble 22d agoWhile I get what you are saying, from my perspective, there is no longer the same breadth of content on HN, with LLM related content taking up a significant portion of the top posts. Today is actually a pretty good day, with I think 7/30 being LLM related. I just don't like having to dig through multiple pages of LLM posts to find other types of tech news. Even if I do read a few here or there, I can't filter them out to look for other stuff. There is other tech out there beyond AI.
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- kazinator 22d agoIt has filtered itself out! "Show HN: Hacker News, Without AI" is front page on news.ycombinator.com, absent on unslop.news.
- otherayden 22d agoas it should lol
- 0gs 22d agolinks at the top e.g. show redirect to the regular site, i presume they are supposed to go to a filtered version
- greenowl 22d agoKind of funny that currently the number 1 article is a Show HN for an AI vibe coded slop terminal program.
- karim79 22d agoWithout AI, using AI to accomplish it's goal. And built using AI. My friends we are in the future.
- ghrl 22d agoJust what I thought. > made with <3 by Ayden That's the cherry on the cake - indicating genuine effort and attention to detail put into something, yet not even checking the credit at the bottom.
- ThePinion 22d agoActually a pretty funny joke if intentional.
- otherayden 22d agoI am the dev, it was in fact intentional
- shoobiedoo 22d agoSo what. The unabomber used a phone sometimes
- xtracto 22d agoCan someone make a site to filter HN posts about apps that remove AI in HN?
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- burnt-resistor 22d agoI love this so much because I hide every "Look at me, I use LLMs and it makes my toast" stories.
- vander_elst 22d agoGreat project I was thinking about doing *exactly* the same. Do you mind sharing your stack?
- otherayden 22d agoThanks! https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai
- japaget 22d agoThe upvote button seems to be broken or non-functional on unslop.news. I am running Windows 10 on a PC desktop with the latest version of MS Edge.
- otherayden 22d agoAdding this as an issue, will fix tonight! Edit: I'm realizing to get the upvotes to work I actually need an auth token for the user's HN account so it will have to be a redirect to the HN thread rather than a functional upvote button, but I am going to keep it to stick with the HN design
- karim79 22d agoThat's intentional. It's a design choice. Get with the programme.
- daishi55 22d agoADS (AI derangement syndrome)
- sajithdilshan 22d agoYou mean AIDS?
- tern 22d agoA few design bugs in the mobile layout (Chrome)
- otherayden 22d agoAh I have been using safari for testing. Will add this as an issue and fix tonight!
- VCFundedGenYer 22d agoThis was written with AI, so there's no point here.
- bedroom_jabroni 22d agoWhy is it empty? /s
- phforms 22d agoHN mostly depresses me these days, so I appreciate this! (nice to see vibe-coding put to good use for once)
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- iLemming 22d agoWe get it, guys - you don't like reading news about AI, but can you just stop spamming submissions with this crap - "HN with no AI, built with AI", wtf is that? I feel like building: "HN for non-haters of AI", where every single motherfucker that even mentions anything remotely sounding like "a slop" would be just shadow-banned. And I'm not even excited about AI.
- Kuyawa 22d agoIs there any AI News site out there? Just AI related news and nothing else There is a market for curated news about AI development in the world. I'd subscribe without hesitation If so, please provide a link, thank you
- postalcoder 22d agohttps://hcker.news/?ai=include https://hcker.news/?ai=include
- karim79 22d agoYes, it's called The Internet last time I checked.
- danillonunes 22d agoSomeone could make a site that just computes the difference between hacker news and unslop news.
- otherayden 22d agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/
- sershe 22d agoHeh I was thinking for a while about a similar pet project but I would remove the political/mainstream news rage bait, especially the stuff that is more or less unrelated to technology. AI news are still tech news
- otherayden 22d agoFeel free to fork this then! https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai It uses an LLM to categorize posts as ai or not, so you can just use a different prompt to filter out whatever you don't want (e.g "Respond with only true or false. true if the following post content is primarily political and false otherwise)
- hn_submit 22d agoTo me this sounds very welcome. I'm continually scanning and skipping over any HN articles concerning A.I. and LLMs. Having a site (or even a setting in HN) that does this for me is great!
- imshaikot 22d agoThat's right on the money name picking :D
- sriyapaka 22d agoAppreciate the thought; it's essential to keep us alive in engineering! It is understood; AI exist; that's not the only news :)
- osquar 21d agoTime for only-AI hacker news
- ghostly_s 20d agoId like to see news about AI, just not AI tooling or "show hn my new AI project". obviously that's not as trivial to filter.