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DHH is not a fascist, he is an attention seeker with a reality distortion field. An RDF is of no use unless you say edgy things. The author is being played by w

DHH is not a fascist, he is an attention seeker with a reality distortion field. An RDF is of no use unless you say edgy things. The author is being played by writing an article like this. Its exactly what DHH wants.

cyanydeez 23d ago
being indistinguishable from a fascist is, surprisingly, still fascism. Its like when a couple of nazis show up at your bar and you dont through them out. Welp, now you're a nazi bar. The real world requires proactive protection from these people. That's reality of where we are today.
- ivanmontillam 23d ago
  > Its like when a couple of nazis show up at your bar and you dont through them out. Welp, now you're a nazi bar. That logic doesn't follow, sorry. You can be inclusive, yet not become the thing you're inclusive to. That's a mental stretch.
  - gropo 23d ago
    That's the political crux of this thread.
  - kennywinker 23d ago
    Including people who are violently un-inclusive is just being violently un-inclusive with an extra step. Like, there are a lot of world views and opinions that can be included without damaging the space, but nazism is very clearly not one of them. Fascism and the authoritarian forms of communism also fall under this heading.
    - ivanmontillam 23d ago
      > Including people who are violently un-inclusive is just being violently un-inclusive with an extra step. Respectfully, that doesn't make any sense.
      - kennywinker 22d ago
        How does it not make sense? Like take politics out of it for a sec. You own a bar. There’s one customer who comes in every night and drinks five shots and then sucker-punches a random other person in the bar. Sure, you’re not violently assaulting one of your customers every night - but functionally, you have created a space where someone gets hurt every night. The first time it happens it’s not your fault, but the 20th time? Come on.
undeveloper 23d ago
i dont think its actually important if DHH is really, in his heart of hearts, is a fascist --- what he is doing is spreading white supremacist, anti immigrant, nativist literature -- in combination. i think if you think liberalism (as in american revolution, the english bill of rights, modern democracy, etc) is valuable, you should probably oppose fascism, the ideology of those who reject liberalism and would like to go back. https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a https://world.hey.com/dhh/three-sacred-cows-that-must-die-so-europe-can-live-1afb203d https://world.hey.com/dhh/three-sacred-cows-that-must-die-so...
- drak0n1c 23d ago
  Even the most liberal Nozickean voluntary society existentially requires a mechanism to limit granting of membership to those who genuinely uphold its values, and limit intrusion and abuse by those who do not. The literature you linked shows that DHH is cognizant of Popper's Paradox and is willing to defend liberalism from exploitation.

cyanydeez 23d ago

being indistinguishable from a fascist is, surprisingly, still fascism. Its like when a couple of nazis show up at your bar and you dont through them out. Welp, now you're a nazi bar. The real world requires proactive protection from these people. That's reality of where we are today.

ivanmontillam 23d ago
> Its like when a couple of nazis show up at your bar and you dont through them out. Welp, now you're a nazi bar. That logic doesn't follow, sorry. You can be inclusive, yet not become the thing you're inclusive to. That's a mental stretch.
- gropo 23d ago
  That's the political crux of this thread.
- kennywinker 23d ago
  Including people who are violently un-inclusive is just being violently un-inclusive with an extra step. Like, there are a lot of world views and opinions that can be included without damaging the space, but nazism is very clearly not one of them. Fascism and the authoritarian forms of communism also fall under this heading.
  - ivanmontillam 23d ago
    > Including people who are violently un-inclusive is just being violently un-inclusive with an extra step. Respectfully, that doesn't make any sense.
    - kennywinker 22d ago
      How does it not make sense? Like take politics out of it for a sec. You own a bar. There’s one customer who comes in every night and drinks five shots and then sucker-punches a random other person in the bar. Sure, you’re not violently assaulting one of your customers every night - but functionally, you have created a space where someone gets hurt every night. The first time it happens it’s not your fault, but the 20th time? Come on.

undeveloper 23d ago

i dont think its actually important if DHH is really, in his heart of hearts, is a fascist --- what he is doing is spreading white supremacist, anti immigrant, nativist literature -- in combination. i think if you think liberalism (as in american revolution, the english bill of rights, modern democracy, etc) is valuable, you should probably oppose fascism, the ideology of those who reject liberalism and would like to go back. https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a https://world.hey.com/dhh/three-sacred-cows-that-must-die-so-europe-can-live-1afb203d https://world.hey.com/dhh/three-sacred-cows-that-must-die-so...

drak0n1c 23d ago
Even the most liberal Nozickean voluntary society existentially requires a mechanism to limit granting of membership to those who genuinely uphold its values, and limit intrusion and abuse by those who do not. The literature you linked shows that DHH is cognizant of Popper's Paradox and is willing to defend liberalism from exploitation.