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Coding is solved, but AI companies are still hiring software engineers?

by Varelion 21d ago

elcritch 21d ago
Best explanation I’ve heard is that “coding is solved but software engineering hasn’t”.
- deleted 21d ago
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- devld 21d ago
  * slop engineering
Dlemlo 21d ago
So they still might do but in parallel the software engineering market in china and india is collapsing.
- Varelion 21d ago
  Source?
  - Dlemlo 21d ago
    Lots of chatter online, i have seen a few videos on this tpic on YT. https://www.hays-china.cn/en/press-release/content/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E5%A4%A7%E9%99%86%E5%B8%82%E5%9C%BA%E7%A7%91%E6%8A%80%E5%B2%97%E4%BD%8D%E5%8F%98%E5%8C%96-%E9%9A%8F%E7%9D%80ai%E8%BF%90%E7%94%A8%E5%AF%B9%E9%9C%80%E6%B1%82%E4%BE%A7%E7%9A%84%E5%BD%B1%E5%93%8D%EF%BC%8C%E8%BD%AF%E4%BB%B6%E5%BC%80%E5%8F%91#:~:text=Organisations%20are%20encouraging%20the%20use%20of%20AI,Wei%2C%20Managing%20Director%20at%20Hays%20Greater%20China. https://www.hays-china.cn/en/press-release/content/%E4%B8%AD...
  - guywithahat 21d ago
    I think he's referring to contracting companies. Cheap software used to be outsourced to India, but it's now getting outsourced to AI. Companies that produce novel things are still hiring, often to manage agents and review output.
bluecheese452 21d ago
Is there any evidence of this?
greenowl 21d ago
Are they really though? And if so, how much of that is due to the hyper growth in this specific space? Meanwhile, the SWE job market across all companies seems pretty rough right now. Talk to someone looking for a job. Most companies seem to be in a holding pattern - little to no new SWE positions available.
- Varelion 21d ago
  That's almost every industry, because most companies realize we are an extremely unstable point in time.
- queenkjuul 21d ago
  The job market sucks for absolutely everyone right now, it's not a SWE thing. Fwiw I've had five recruiters reach out to me in the last four months and I'm not even applying places. It's a far cry from 2021-2022 but I'm not convinced it's worse for SWEs today than it is for everyone else
MattDamonSpace 21d ago
Coding != software development

Coding is solved, but AI companies are still hiring software engineers?

elcritch 21d ago

Best explanation I’ve heard is that “coding is solved but software engineering hasn’t”.

deleted 21d ago
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devld 21d ago
* slop engineering

Dlemlo 21d ago

So they still might do but in parallel the software engineering market in china and india is collapsing.

Varelion 21d ago
Source?
- Dlemlo 21d ago
  Lots of chatter online, i have seen a few videos on this tpic on YT. https://www.hays-china.cn/en/press-release/content/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E5%A4%A7%E9%99%86%E5%B8%82%E5%9C%BA%E7%A7%91%E6%8A%80%E5%B2%97%E4%BD%8D%E5%8F%98%E5%8C%96-%E9%9A%8F%E7%9D%80ai%E8%BF%90%E7%94%A8%E5%AF%B9%E9%9C%80%E6%B1%82%E4%BE%A7%E7%9A%84%E5%BD%B1%E5%93%8D%EF%BC%8C%E8%BD%AF%E4%BB%B6%E5%BC%80%E5%8F%91#:~:text=Organisations%20are%20encouraging%20the%20use%20of%20AI,Wei%2C%20Managing%20Director%20at%20Hays%20Greater%20China. https://www.hays-china.cn/en/press-release/content/%E4%B8%AD...
- guywithahat 21d ago
  I think he's referring to contracting companies. Cheap software used to be outsourced to India, but it's now getting outsourced to AI. Companies that produce novel things are still hiring, often to manage agents and review output.

bluecheese452 21d ago

Is there any evidence of this?

greenowl 21d ago

Are they really though? And if so, how much of that is due to the hyper growth in this specific space? Meanwhile, the SWE job market across all companies seems pretty rough right now. Talk to someone looking for a job. Most companies seem to be in a holding pattern - little to no new SWE positions available.

Varelion 21d ago
That's almost every industry, because most companies realize we are an extremely unstable point in time.
queenkjuul 21d ago
The job market sucks for absolutely everyone right now, it's not a SWE thing. Fwiw I've had five recruiters reach out to me in the last four months and I'm not even applying places. It's a far cry from 2021-2022 but I'm not convinced it's worse for SWEs today than it is for everyone else

MattDamonSpace 21d ago

Coding != software development