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Narcotic pain killers containing acetaminophen have a lower risk of addiction than the equivalent opiate. That is the whole reason why they're so readily availa

Narcotic pain killers containing acetaminophen have a lower risk of addiction than the equivalent opiate. That is the whole reason why they're so readily available. A dentist prescribing Vicodin is unlikely to create another addict. As a person who has had two root canals, one for a severely infected tooth, I am glad that this is the situation. Oxycontin, as a time-release opiate, is another drug intended to maximize the painkilling:abuse potential ratio. You are implying that things like Oxycontin OP are an attempt to poison drug users. I reject this weird-ass conspiracy theory, and submit that perhaps things like Oxycontin OP are designed to do exactly what they say--lower risk of abuse. Nobody wakes up one day and says "I am going to become an addict today", it happens in cumulative moments of weakness. Edit: now people are saying that the point of Vicodin is to kill people who overdose on it. Nonsense. It's an effective painkiller with reduced addiction risk; reason enough for its existence if you care at all about consumer freedom. But whether or not Vicodin should exist is not even what this subthread is about. I give up.

drivebyacct2 14y ago
>submit that perhaps things like Oxycontin OP are designed to do exactly what they say--lower risk of abuse. They do so by attempting to deter abuse via threat of poison. People die from acetaminophen poisoning from this tactic. >Nobody wakes up one day and says "I am going to become an addict today", it happens in cumulative moments of weakness. You don't know what you're talking about. The Vicodin comment was bad enough. It's widely known to be abused and it often leads to abuse of other painkillers. edit: I'm worried I've misunderstood. I got the impression from the context that Oxycontin OP had acetaminophen in it. If it doesn't, why are we even talking about it?
jlgreco 14y ago
Despite the assertions of low abuse potential, the reality is that people do become addicted to narcotic pain killers. Vicodin abuse is massively widespread, you are entirely ignorant in this subject if you think otherwise. When the original, "higher abuse potential" (read: safer) Oxycontin formulation was replaced by Oxycontin OP, addicts were driven to abusing high-acetaminophen narcotics anyway (attempting cold water extraction if they knew enough), or to more dangerous sources of a fix: black market original formulation Oxycontin or, often, street heroin. No addict wakes up one day and says "Oh, my painkillers have acetaminophen? Guess it's a good day to quit". Why? Because they are addicts. Creating slow-releasing narcotic painkillers to reduce accidental addiction is fine. Removing all safe narcotic painkillers from the market damages addicts and is unethical. Oxycontin OP was not invented in a vacuum, it replaced the traditional Oxycontin in a misguided attempt to stop deliberate abuse (the differences are not merely limited to slower release). Creating narcotic painkillers that are purposely deadly when abused is never fine.
- rdl 14y ago
  I honestly don't know how an MD would permit himself to be involved in the Vicodin/Percocet crime. There had to be hundreds of doctors involved in development and approval. It kills people, completely unnecessarily, in the name of the drug war. (if I ever get a painkiller from my dentist, I ask specifically for vicoprofen, anyway)

drivebyacct2 14y ago

>submit that perhaps things like Oxycontin OP are designed to do exactly what they say--lower risk of abuse. They do so by attempting to deter abuse via threat of poison. People die from acetaminophen poisoning from this tactic. >Nobody wakes up one day and says "I am going to become an addict today", it happens in cumulative moments of weakness. You don't know what you're talking about. The Vicodin comment was bad enough. It's widely known to be abused and it often leads to abuse of other painkillers. edit: I'm worried I've misunderstood. I got the impression from the context that Oxycontin OP had acetaminophen in it. If it doesn't, why are we even talking about it?

jlgreco 14y ago

Despite the assertions of low abuse potential, the reality is that people do become addicted to narcotic pain killers. Vicodin abuse is massively widespread, you are entirely ignorant in this subject if you think otherwise. When the original, "higher abuse potential" (read: safer) Oxycontin formulation was replaced by Oxycontin OP, addicts were driven to abusing high-acetaminophen narcotics anyway (attempting cold water extraction if they knew enough), or to more dangerous sources of a fix: black market original formulation Oxycontin or, often, street heroin. No addict wakes up one day and says "Oh, my painkillers have acetaminophen? Guess it's a good day to quit". Why? Because they are addicts. Creating slow-releasing narcotic painkillers to reduce accidental addiction is fine. Removing all safe narcotic painkillers from the market damages addicts and is unethical. Oxycontin OP was not invented in a vacuum, it replaced the traditional Oxycontin in a misguided attempt to stop deliberate abuse (the differences are not merely limited to slower release). Creating narcotic painkillers that are purposely deadly when abused is never fine.

rdl 14y ago
I honestly don't know how an MD would permit himself to be involved in the Vicodin/Percocet crime. There had to be hundreds of doctors involved in development and approval. It kills people, completely unnecessarily, in the name of the drug war. (if I ever get a painkiller from my dentist, I ask specifically for vicoprofen, anyway)