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How does open source have anything to do with Neki's ability to scale against a service that doesn't even do sharding.
by samlambert 2mo ago
How does open source have anything to do with Neki's ability to scale against a service that doesn't even do sharding.
- margalabargala 2mo agoThey both are characteristics of software that people consider when deciding whether to use it. Open source being by far the more important of the two, since it means the user is more insulated by terrible corporate decisions thus making it more suitable for long term planning.
- samlambert 2mo agohave you ever worked for a customer of AWS? If so you have contributed heavily to the destruction of commercial open source.
- xyzzy_plugh 2mo agoBut your customers are, of course, somehow different? What point are you even trying to make? Commerical open source is fine. It's nobody else's fault if you raised too much to make it work sustainably.
- samlambert 2mo agoMy customers aren't pretending it's a bad thing that Neki isn't open source.
- xyzzy_plugh 2mo agoYou've simply chosen not to listen, considering that they've voiced those concerns to me.
- cschmatzler 2mo agoA year ago in the initial announcement post you explicitly mentioned open sourcing it. > When we are ready we will release Neki as an open source project suitable for running the most demanding Postgres workloads. Has this changed?
- 190n 2mo agoThey removed that line from the blog post: https://web.archive.org/web/20260516145550/https://planetscale.com/blog/announcing-neki https://web.archive.org/web/20260516145550/https://planetsca... https://web.archive.org/web/20260910204345/https://planetscale.com/blog/announcing-neki https://web.archive.org/web/20260910204345/https://planetsca...
- dkgs 2mo agoAcknowledging the benifits of keeping a commercial product closed source is one thing, claiming open source has no value is another thing. Sad to see this coming from a company that was itself built on the foundation of an open-source project like Vitess.
- samlambert 2mo agowho said open source has no value? I worked at GitHub for 6 years i clearly love open source. We maintain Vitess using our company funds. Why are you going after a small company for defending itself against companies like Amazon but not criticizing the reason we have to do this. I would love to open source Neki and I have not said we won't.
- xyzzy_plugh 2mo agoSee? You're proving my point. All you do is play games. Are you even capable of engaging without confrontation?
- margalabargala 2mo agoI have not in fact, no, despite working 12 years as an SWE. Unlike you, probably, if we're slinging unfounded accusations.
- tvink 2mo agoI've never known in a shorter time that a CEO is too defensive to be a business partner faster.
- therein 2mo agoIt is the only reason I come to the comments section of PlanetScale posts on HN. Their CEO always immediately comes in and makes a fool out of himself. He is what you get when you mix narcissism and being a midwit.
- fwip 2mo agomodeling your public relations strategy after matt mullenweg, I see
- Twirrim 2mo agoIt's very effective, I'm certainly persuaded to never touch their products. A remarkable own goal given that if they'd literally held their tongue, I'd be at worst indifferent.
- samlambert 2mo agoPeople think comments like this really bother me as if I believe that I've missed out on any dollars at all from you, as if you have the buying power or ability to drive any workloads that would in any way move the needle on my revenue. I want to let you know that I have customers that pay PlanetScale millions of dollars and have told me they came to the product because of my Twitter account. So you will never make me feel bad about this.
- fwip 2mo agoSure, Jan.