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How about a map of compact items with a high street resale value? That's what this is.

danso 14y ago
Which kind of compact items do you have in mind that are regulated by police bureaucracy? Also, read the OP. This is a map of permit holders, not of gun owners.
- AnthonyMouse 14y ago
  >This is a map of permit holders, not of gun owners. Let's hope for a moment that you have some evidence that some nontrivial portion of the people who pay hundreds of dollars for a permit do so without then subsequently purchasing a firearm, so that we can't just facially dismiss your distinction because of the effective 1:1 correlation between permit holders and gun owners. Perhaps a lot of people hold permits so that they can possess guns they don't actually own, for some reason. There is still a bit of trouble. It's a permit to possess a gun. Even if the permit holder doesn't own the gun, it would be totally irrational to even get the permit unless they were going to possess one. And the thief is looking to steal it from the person who possesses it, not the person who owns it (when they aren't the same person). So I guess I don't understand your point.
  - danso 14y ago
    Sorry, but the onus is on you to prove, or at least argue, that burglars use this information to raid houses at a higher rate than they would otherwise do so. This is how the law and public records work. Keep in mind using the "it puts people at risk" argument is basically the stock argument for preventing the disclosure of many, many types of public records. But since we're talking hypotheticals, my main point is this: you've imagined a savvy burglar who apparently has no easier means of getting firearms than to burglar a home. That being the case, this burglar has to weigh a number of specific factors, including the possibility that said home may not actually have a handgun (nevemrind whether it's easy to find). At what point does the burglar make his/her burglary decisions based on other factors: such as, how obvious it is that someone is home, and how rich that person is (easily judged by looking at the home or consulting business/assessor records)?

danso 14y ago

Which kind of compact items do you have in mind that are regulated by police bureaucracy? Also, read the OP. This is a map of permit holders, not of gun owners.

AnthonyMouse 14y ago
>This is a map of permit holders, not of gun owners. Let's hope for a moment that you have some evidence that some nontrivial portion of the people who pay hundreds of dollars for a permit do so without then subsequently purchasing a firearm, so that we can't just facially dismiss your distinction because of the effective 1:1 correlation between permit holders and gun owners. Perhaps a lot of people hold permits so that they can possess guns they don't actually own, for some reason. There is still a bit of trouble. It's a permit to possess a gun. Even if the permit holder doesn't own the gun, it would be totally irrational to even get the permit unless they were going to possess one. And the thief is looking to steal it from the person who possesses it, not the person who owns it (when they aren't the same person). So I guess I don't understand your point.
- danso 14y ago
  Sorry, but the onus is on you to prove, or at least argue, that burglars use this information to raid houses at a higher rate than they would otherwise do so. This is how the law and public records work. Keep in mind using the "it puts people at risk" argument is basically the stock argument for preventing the disclosure of many, many types of public records. But since we're talking hypotheticals, my main point is this: you've imagined a savvy burglar who apparently has no easier means of getting firearms than to burglar a home. That being the case, this burglar has to weigh a number of specific factors, including the possibility that said home may not actually have a handgun (nevemrind whether it's easy to find). At what point does the burglar make his/her burglary decisions based on other factors: such as, how obvious it is that someone is home, and how rich that person is (easily judged by looking at the home or consulting business/assessor records)?