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GNOME founder and team say DHH is a fascist

7 points by nailer 24d ago

techblueberry 24d ago
On the one hand maybe? I mean plenty of non-profits expand how they spend their money from core mission to like supporting adjacent issues, and I’m not in any way defending or making a statement on DHH’s views which I think can be described using many words , but like “b tier tech celebrity creates a Linux distro to funnel tech funds to marginal right wing groups” Is a weird conspiracy theory when funneling money to marginal right wing groups isn’t nearly the taboo it once was.
- nailer 24d ago
  The thing is DHH isn’t a fascist: he doesn’t want a state controlling everything and certainly doesn’t want an ethnostate for whatever his ethnicity is. That’s a bizarre and very serious claim to make. He’s just a normal person that happens to be right wing.
  - techblueberry 24d ago
    It’s presumptuous of you to claim to know someone’s inner motivations which ever direction you’re trying to take it.
    - nailer 24d ago
      You're correct but misguided, in that it's presumptuous to claim someone's inner motivations are evil as the GNOME team are doing. It is reasonable of people to think DHH is not a fascist as there's no evidence to support him being one.
- cpburns2009 24d ago
  Does the GNOME founder think Omarchy is the SPLC or something?
BoggleOhYeah 24d ago
If Lunduke is calling something a conspiracy theory, it probably isn’t. This guy has been playing for a right wing grifting gig but he’s just too unlikable.
- nailer 24d ago
  The screenshots are real, if you have evidence that DHH is somehow a fascist post it here.
  - phs318u 24d ago
    Like his actual words against the Roma? I don’t know about fascist but he’s definitely a self-identifying fucking racist.
    - nailer 23d ago
      He wanted them deported for camping permanently in public spaces? If you think people have no choice to do that based on their race we both know who the racist is.
      - phs318u 22d ago
        Is there already a law against camping in public spaces? Apply that law. Any treatment of groups other than according to the law (when the law itself makes no mention of a discriminating attribute) is racism/sexism/etc. One law for all right?
  - BoggleOhYeah 24d ago
    Are you under the impression that I am the co-founder of GNOME? I was speaking to the conspiracy theory here, that the donations to Omarchy are just a passthrough to unsavory organizations. It’s, at least, plausible to me for two reasons. 1. Omarchy is just a pre-configured Arch install and doesn’t require large donations for maintenance. 2. The donators (Lutke and Dell) are all Trump-adjacent or have expressed authoritarian views in the past. Lutke, for example, advocates stripping poor people of the right to vote and giving the rich more votes.
spottedmarley 24d ago
Fascist.. that word has been rendered impotent and meaningless right along with words like 'racist' and 'nazi' from the improper and hyper-over-use of these words by lunatics who toss them around like Oprah handing out shitbags to her audience. "YOU are a fascist and YOU are a fascist and YOU...!" while all the idiots clap and cheer.
SettembreNero 24d ago
If it walks like a fascist and it quacks like a fascist, then it must be a fascist
drewbitt 24d ago
Unlikable at least

7 points by nailer 24d ago

On the one hand maybe? I mean plenty of non-profits expand how they spend their money from core mission to like supporting adjacent issues, and I’m not in any way defending or making a statement on DHH’s views which I think can be described using many words , but like “b tier tech celebrity creates a Linux distro to funnel tech funds to marginal right wing groups” Is a weird conspiracy theory when funneling money to marginal right wing groups isn’t nearly the taboo it once was.

nailer 24d ago
The thing is DHH isn’t a fascist: he doesn’t want a state controlling everything and certainly doesn’t want an ethnostate for whatever his ethnicity is. That’s a bizarre and very serious claim to make. He’s just a normal person that happens to be right wing.
- techblueberry 24d ago
  It’s presumptuous of you to claim to know someone’s inner motivations which ever direction you’re trying to take it.
  - nailer 24d ago
    You're correct but misguided, in that it's presumptuous to claim someone's inner motivations are evil as the GNOME team are doing. It is reasonable of people to think DHH is not a fascist as there's no evidence to support him being one.
cpburns2009 24d ago
Does the GNOME founder think Omarchy is the SPLC or something?

BoggleOhYeah 24d ago

If Lunduke is calling something a conspiracy theory, it probably isn’t. This guy has been playing for a right wing grifting gig but he’s just too unlikable.

nailer 24d ago
The screenshots are real, if you have evidence that DHH is somehow a fascist post it here.
- phs318u 24d ago
  Like his actual words against the Roma? I don’t know about fascist but he’s definitely a self-identifying fucking racist.
  - nailer 23d ago
    He wanted them deported for camping permanently in public spaces? If you think people have no choice to do that based on their race we both know who the racist is.
    - phs318u 22d ago
      Is there already a law against camping in public spaces? Apply that law. Any treatment of groups other than according to the law (when the law itself makes no mention of a discriminating attribute) is racism/sexism/etc. One law for all right?
- BoggleOhYeah 24d ago
  Are you under the impression that I am the co-founder of GNOME? I was speaking to the conspiracy theory here, that the donations to Omarchy are just a passthrough to unsavory organizations. It’s, at least, plausible to me for two reasons. 1. Omarchy is just a pre-configured Arch install and doesn’t require large donations for maintenance. 2. The donators (Lutke and Dell) are all Trump-adjacent or have expressed authoritarian views in the past. Lutke, for example, advocates stripping poor people of the right to vote and giving the rich more votes.

spottedmarley 24d ago

Fascist.. that word has been rendered impotent and meaningless right along with words like 'racist' and 'nazi' from the improper and hyper-over-use of these words by lunatics who toss them around like Oprah handing out shitbags to her audience. "YOU are a fascist and YOU are a fascist and YOU...!" while all the idiots clap and cheer.

SettembreNero 24d ago

If it walks like a fascist and it quacks like a fascist, then it must be a fascist

drewbitt 24d ago

Unlikable at least