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I've been fascinated by Cephalopods since reading (the excellent) book "Other Minds" by Peter Godfrey-Smith. They are probably the closest we'll get to an alien

by rolfus 22d ago

I've been fascinated by Cephalopods since reading (the excellent) book "Other Minds" by Peter Godfrey-Smith. They are probably the closest we'll get to an alien intelligence. Their nervous systems evolved along a completely different evolutionary path from us vertebrates. It pains me that they are so short lived, though. I wonder what potential could be unlocked by their intelligence if they lived for 40 years or longer.

PowerElectronix 22d ago
You just need to convice the ethics review board on some research lab to allow for editing the genes of a few octopus to make them longer lived, give them education, etc...
- lproven 22d ago
  Q: What do you get when you cross an octopus with a cow? A: An immediate cessation of funding and a stern letter from the Ethics Committee.
  - adolph 22d ago
    For your consideration, a cephalopod joke I made while stopped in traffic considering the name of an SUV: Q: What do you call a mischievous mollusk? A: A Naughty-lus
    - lproven 22d ago
      As I believe the kids say: Thanks, I hate it. ;-)
- __patchbit__ 22d ago
  The nautilus is a genetic precursor to the octopus on the cephalopod branched tree of life and takes 20 years to mature.
samsari 22d ago
You should read Time by Stephen Baxter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_(novel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_(novel). Part of it deals with this precise topic.
- rolfus 22d ago
  Thank you - ordered!
askvictor 22d ago
"the mountain in the sea" is recent sci fi that deals with this idea.
hermitcrab 22d ago
You will be happy to read this then: https://www.ciwf.org/media-and-news/press-releases-and-media-statements/plans-for-world-s-first-octopus-farm-abandoned-following-ngo-pressure/ https://www.ciwf.org/media-and-news/press-releases-and-media... "Other Minds" is definitely worth a read.
chasd00 22d ago
or read "Gentle Giant Octopus" to your kids, the ending hits parents a little hard though.
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adolph 22d ago
You might find the recent Theories of Everything podcast interview [0] with Peter Godfrey-Smith interesting. 0. https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/peter-godfrey-smith-this-scientist-6e9 https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/peter-godfrey-smith-thi...

by rolfus 22d ago

PowerElectronix 22d ago

You just need to convice the ethics review board on some research lab to allow for editing the genes of a few octopus to make them longer lived, give them education, etc...

lproven 22d ago
Q: What do you get when you cross an octopus with a cow? A: An immediate cessation of funding and a stern letter from the Ethics Committee.
- adolph 22d ago
  For your consideration, a cephalopod joke I made while stopped in traffic considering the name of an SUV: Q: What do you call a mischievous mollusk? A: A Naughty-lus
  - lproven 22d ago
    As I believe the kids say: Thanks, I hate it. ;-)
__patchbit__ 22d ago
The nautilus is a genetic precursor to the octopus on the cephalopod branched tree of life and takes 20 years to mature.

samsari 22d ago

You should read Time by Stephen Baxter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_(novel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_(novel). Part of it deals with this precise topic.

rolfus 22d ago
Thank you - ordered!

askvictor 22d ago

"the mountain in the sea" is recent sci fi that deals with this idea.

hermitcrab 22d ago

You will be happy to read this then: https://www.ciwf.org/media-and-news/press-releases-and-media-statements/plans-for-world-s-first-octopus-farm-abandoned-following-ngo-pressure/ https://www.ciwf.org/media-and-news/press-releases-and-media... "Other Minds" is definitely worth a read.

chasd00 22d ago

or read "Gentle Giant Octopus" to your kids, the ending hits parents a little hard though.

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adolph 22d ago

You might find the recent Theories of Everything podcast interview [0] with Peter Godfrey-Smith interesting. 0. https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/peter-godfrey-smith-this-scientist-6e9 https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/peter-godfrey-smith-thi...