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Ridiculous and trivially provably false. (maybe Danish are different) Go to any intersection in SF or LA. Set up a camera. Count the number of cars and cyclist

Ridiculous and trivially provably false. (maybe Danish are different) Go to any intersection in SF or LA. Set up a camera. Count the number of cars and cyclists that break a traffic law. Cars will be 5-10% breaking the laws. Cyclists will be 95-97% breaking the laws.

crisnoble 1mo ago
Please go do it then. I've done this in San Diego, it was 19/20 failing to stop for cars, the one who did failed to stop behind the painted line. There were only 2 cyclists and they also slowly rolled through the intersection.
- socalgal2 29d ago
  So, 100% bike offenders. Less than 100% car offenders. You proved my point.
throw0101a 1mo ago
> […] Set up a camera. […] That's what a bunch of researchers did in Florida and found cyclists more compliant: > According to the study, bicyclists were in compliance with traffic laws 88 percent of the time during the day and 87 percent of the time at night. The observed compliance rate for drivers who interacted with participants was slightly lower, at 85 percent during the day. (There weren’t enough nighttime driver observations to report a compliance rate.) * https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/03/study-cyclists-dont-break-traffic-laws-any-more-than-drivers-do https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/03/study-cyclists-dont-b... * https://web.archive.org/web/20180127052846/http://www.fdot.gov/research/Completed_Proj/Summary_SF/FDOT-BDV25-977-13-rpt.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20180127052846/http://www.fdot.g...
loeg 1mo ago
This is a great example of confirmation bias.
Zambyte 1mo ago
My apartment overlooks a three way intersection. Drivers block the box almost every light cycle in rush hour. The most common traffic offense I see bikers make is riding on the sidewalk, which they obviously do because they fear being killed by drivers.
wpm 1mo ago
Source: "I made it the fuck up"
TulliusCicero 1mo ago
Yeah, it's not like drivers text while driving, go over the speed limit, fail to signal, fail to fully stop at stop signs, run red lights, tailgate, or park in the bike lane, right?

crisnoble 1mo ago

Please go do it then. I've done this in San Diego, it was 19/20 failing to stop for cars, the one who did failed to stop behind the painted line. There were only 2 cyclists and they also slowly rolled through the intersection.

socalgal2 29d ago
So, 100% bike offenders. Less than 100% car offenders. You proved my point.

throw0101a 1mo ago

> […] Set up a camera. […] That's what a bunch of researchers did in Florida and found cyclists more compliant: > According to the study, bicyclists were in compliance with traffic laws 88 percent of the time during the day and 87 percent of the time at night. The observed compliance rate for drivers who interacted with participants was slightly lower, at 85 percent during the day. (There weren’t enough nighttime driver observations to report a compliance rate.) * https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/03/study-cyclists-dont-break-traffic-laws-any-more-than-drivers-do https://usa.streetsblog.org/2018/01/03/study-cyclists-dont-b... * https://web.archive.org/web/20180127052846/http://www.fdot.gov/research/Completed_Proj/Summary_SF/FDOT-BDV25-977-13-rpt.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20180127052846/http://www.fdot.g...

loeg 1mo ago

This is a great example of confirmation bias.

Zambyte 1mo ago

My apartment overlooks a three way intersection. Drivers block the box almost every light cycle in rush hour. The most common traffic offense I see bikers make is riding on the sidewalk, which they obviously do because they fear being killed by drivers.

wpm 1mo ago

Source: "I made it the fuck up"

TulliusCicero 1mo ago

Yeah, it's not like drivers text while driving, go over the speed limit, fail to signal, fail to fully stop at stop signs, run red lights, tailgate, or park in the bike lane, right?