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How are your rights being violated? I'm sure you have a solid and thought-out answer that justifies such a casual attitude towards violence.
by SR2Z 16d ago
How are your rights being violated?
I'm sure you have a solid and thought-out answer that justifies such a casual attitude towards violence.
- laimewhisps 16d agoI'm being surveilled and profiled by these companies. Let their CEOs feel maximum heat.
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- SR2Z 14d agoHaving a dedicated team to track protests and avoid them to protect your own life is "maximum heat."
- laimewhisps 14d agoOr, they stop doing things that enrage millions of people and the protests go away. They don’t need protection from their actions at everyone’s privacy expense, they need to face the people and adjust their actions until that’s something they’re willing to do.
- SR2Z 14d agoMany people have to make unpopular decisions because society needs them to. Would you say the same thing about, say, a politician raising gas taxes? What about a ridehailing app that displaces a taxi cartel with a long track record of being awful for consumers? A world where people are not free to do unpopular things without being torn to shreds by angry mobs seems deeply impoverished to me. "The people" at one point supported slavery, racism, etc., etc. Is AI like any of those? Probably not, but the same principles apply. The law is a much better option than mob rule, and tracking protests is hardly a violation of anyone's rights.
- laimewhisps 14d agoYes, if you want power you should also face the downside of misusing it (which these people are). I would love to see these protests brought to the offices and homes of the CEOs.
- SR2Z 14d agoIf your take is "terrorizing people for making unpopular decisions is good" then you are not a serious person. Protesting is fine, harassment is not, and protesting outside someone's home is most certainly harassment. I am confident that you would find a protest outside your home about you to be terrifying. Any sane person would. It's not acceptable and is not protected by the first amendment.
- laimewhisps 14d agoI don't do things that would make people protest outside my house. These people did, and while you may not think I'm a "serious person", you're going to find that society is going in this direction due to the flagrant abuse coming from those in power. Do you not know about the French revolution?
- SR2Z 14d agoIf you do things which impact a large number of people, you will inevitably piss some of them off. > Do you not know about the French revolution? The main losers in the French revolution were regular people, and the country ended up under a totalitarian dictator who conquered large swathes of Europe and invented the concept of total war. I'm not sure you should be holding it up as an example of protests (which were astonishingly violent in this case) leading to good and reasonable outcomes.
- laimewhisps 14d agoIf you do things that impact a large number of people, you should definitely feel the consequence of your actions. No one is forced into these positions, in fact they work very hard to acquire power over others. That should come with very real downsides. Regardless of whether you think the French revolution was good or not, it was the inevitable outcome of a very similar situation we find ourselves in.
- customguy 16d ago> such a casual attitude towards violence. How is protest violence?
- SR2Z 16d agoDo protests ever lead to violence? Are you being obtuse or do you believe this is actually safe?
- defrost 16d agoDoes driving a car ever lead to violence? Are you being obtuse or do you believe this is actually safe?
- SR2Z 14d agoDriving a car is not an emotional act 99.9% of the time. Driving a car while you are emotional is in fact dangerous and often leads to violence. Pretests aren't dispassionate. That's why they have to be protected, that's also why it's deranged to suggest what you are suggesting. The main difference between the setup of a protest and a lynch mob is that the subject of a peaceful protest isn't usually present.
- customguy 16d agoAll sorts of things can lead to violence, including a failure to protest. With enough weasel words, anything can sound reasonable, to people who don't pay attention to that stuff. So?
- SR2Z 14d agoIntentionally obtuse, got it.
- Ancapistani 16d agoI’m all for protesting, but surely you can agree that there is heightened risk if a person is in close proximity to people who oppose them strongly enough to act. The whole purpose of a protest is to cause behavioral change; their hustling them out the back door is a success.
- deaux 16d ago> How are your rights being violated? Surveillance capitalism. > I'm sure you have a solid and thought-out answer that justifies such a casual attitude towards violence. The ones with a casual attitude towards violence are those executives. Facebook leadership showed an incredibly casual attitude towards the genocide in Myanmar in which their platform played a huge role. Their purchases of doomsday bunkers further help show their attitude towards violence.
- SR2Z 14d agoThere is a world of difference between building a doomsday bunker (which is definitely not limited to the ultra wealthy) and suggesting that someone should walk through a riled up crowd that hates their guts. If you are unwilling to accept that statement, have a good day, because I'm gonna stop here for my own sanity.