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HN now has AI/LLM-enabled comment processing. Even if you don’t want to interact with the machine it will interact with you. You will eat ze bugs and you will b

by wazzap 23d ago

HN now has AI/LLM-enabled comment processing. Even if you don’t want to interact with the machine it will interact with you. You will eat ze bugs and you will be happy.

tehjoker 23d ago
What do you mean by this?
- plaidthunder 23d ago
  It's a reference to a very old meme. Where "eat the bugs" was a shorthand for the lower classes being fed bugs as a cheap source of protein. Has been re-mixed without attribution so many times that I don't know when it started, even Snowpiercer got in on it back in 2013. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jK9O4tEiA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jK9O4tEiA I think here it's meant to imply that LLMs will be forced on the population at large as a form of social control.
- strangecasts 23d ago
  Presumably that HN has an automated LLM-based filter to moderate rude or irrelevant comments, which is a little irrelevant to the article's wish not to see generated posts or comments, and not without its own problems besides: ML is necessary for large-scale moderation, but there are guidelines (like "don't post AI-generated text") which are IMO necessary but also just definitionally hard to enforce in an automated fashion
- wazzap 23d ago
  That your comment and article will be subject to the ranking and processing of a machine authority and there is nothing you can do about it. So you might think you’re being flagged or shadow banned because someone downvoted you or otherwise. But no, it was an automated process that did it. If it makes the author happier they can ask dang what is the prompt used for automated HN processing.
verdverm 23d ago
> Don't post generated text or AI-edited text. HN is for conversation between humans. This is HN's newest guideline / rule, seems the opposite to me. Does it still happen, yes, is it as bad as 6 months ago, no.
- kittikitti 23d ago
  The most human thing is posting something that breaks the rules.
  - verdverm 23d ago
    How is that something that defines humans? The machines break the rules as a matter of fact. It's also really a human deciding to have the machine post, they don't do anything of their own volition, so the person behind it is still the one breaking the rules, non sequitur? I still don't see it as data point we can differentiate human-ness on.
  - wazzap 23d ago
    I don’t think they get it and I don’t think they care either way.

by wazzap 23d ago

HN now has AI/LLM-enabled comment processing. Even if you don’t want to interact with the machine it will interact with you. You will eat ze bugs and you will be happy.

tehjoker 23d ago

What do you mean by this?

plaidthunder 23d ago
It's a reference to a very old meme. Where "eat the bugs" was a shorthand for the lower classes being fed bugs as a cheap source of protein. Has been re-mixed without attribution so many times that I don't know when it started, even Snowpiercer got in on it back in 2013. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jK9O4tEiA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jK9O4tEiA I think here it's meant to imply that LLMs will be forced on the population at large as a form of social control.
strangecasts 23d ago
Presumably that HN has an automated LLM-based filter to moderate rude or irrelevant comments, which is a little irrelevant to the article's wish not to see generated posts or comments, and not without its own problems besides: ML is necessary for large-scale moderation, but there are guidelines (like "don't post AI-generated text") which are IMO necessary but also just definitionally hard to enforce in an automated fashion
wazzap 23d ago
That your comment and article will be subject to the ranking and processing of a machine authority and there is nothing you can do about it. So you might think you’re being flagged or shadow banned because someone downvoted you or otherwise. But no, it was an automated process that did it. If it makes the author happier they can ask dang what is the prompt used for automated HN processing.

verdverm 23d ago

> Don't post generated text or AI-edited text. HN is for conversation between humans. This is HN's newest guideline / rule, seems the opposite to me. Does it still happen, yes, is it as bad as 6 months ago, no.

kittikitti 23d ago
The most human thing is posting something that breaks the rules.
- verdverm 23d ago
  How is that something that defines humans? The machines break the rules as a matter of fact. It's also really a human deciding to have the machine post, they don't do anything of their own volition, so the person behind it is still the one breaking the rules, non sequitur? I still don't see it as data point we can differentiate human-ness on.
- wazzap 23d ago
  I don’t think they get it and I don’t think they care either way.