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in 10 years any phone should be able to wirelessly stream it to any monitor / tv and plenty of those will be everywhere

by FpUser 25d ago

varjag 25d ago
I mean you kinda can do that now.
- FpUser 25d ago
  >"kinda" - is a keyword. experience is abysmal, especially when it works but true desktop paradigm is not supported
  - static_motion 25d ago
    I find Dex to be decent enough. Its biggest limitation is that it runs Android apps, but for doing stuff in a browser on a big screen and multitasking with some other apps that are tolerable to use that way it's pretty good.
    - FpUser 25d ago
      >"I find Dex to be decent enough" - I guess it is very personal. I find it atrocious. Not this and not that. My instincts are screwed
9dev 25d ago
Right — I would have hoped a while ago already that we transcend past the notion of an endpoint device. A tablet, a laptop, or a phone should all just be entry points to access my one OS instance. You could think this a bit further still, and have all kinds of devices offer an interface to nearby endpoints with a display or controls, establishing connectivity automatically.
- Danox 25d ago
  Right now, Apple is the only vertical company out there at scale. Maybe one of the Chinese companies might eventually get there but who is this western company other than Apple? It certainly isn’t Google or Microsoft at this point their efforts are more halfhearted me-too products, and when I say hardware, I mean in-house designed and engineered hardware not buying it from somebody else.
- HalcyonicStorm 25d ago
  I'm really sad that the ubuntu phone dream was never realized
mywittyname 25d ago
We can do this now, but I don't think the user experience makes it worth it compared to casting. Bandwidth limitations require lower frame rates and responsiveness, which is fine for video but bad for interactive apps (most phones are native 120+hz + VRR_. But re-encoding video is (processor & battery life) expensive and probably lower quality than the original stream. People who do this a lot probably just use a DV adapter (maybe it just works with USB-C, but I haven't tried it) for native apps, or casting for streaming video.
reenorap 25d ago
Apple does this right now. I use AirPlay to extend one laptop into an older laptop so I can have 2 displays when I’m away from home
- FpUser 25d ago
  There is a difference between laptop and a phone. Hopefully in the future phone can be switched to a full desktop mode and OS when it beams to large screen. Well that is unless by then we have chip in our brains or what's equally bad everything rented and leased and can be used from any physical location. Convenient but deadly.

in 10 years any phone should be able to wirelessly stream it to any monitor / tv and plenty of those will be everywhere

by FpUser 25d ago

in 10 years any phone should be able to wirelessly stream it to any monitor / tv and plenty of those will be everywhere

varjag 25d ago

I mean you kinda can do that now.

FpUser 25d ago
>"kinda" - is a keyword. experience is abysmal, especially when it works but true desktop paradigm is not supported
- static_motion 25d ago
  I find Dex to be decent enough. Its biggest limitation is that it runs Android apps, but for doing stuff in a browser on a big screen and multitasking with some other apps that are tolerable to use that way it's pretty good.
  - FpUser 25d ago
    >"I find Dex to be decent enough" - I guess it is very personal. I find it atrocious. Not this and not that. My instincts are screwed

9dev 25d ago

Right — I would have hoped a while ago already that we transcend past the notion of an endpoint device. A tablet, a laptop, or a phone should all just be entry points to access my one OS instance. You could think this a bit further still, and have all kinds of devices offer an interface to nearby endpoints with a display or controls, establishing connectivity automatically.

Danox 25d ago
Right now, Apple is the only vertical company out there at scale. Maybe one of the Chinese companies might eventually get there but who is this western company other than Apple? It certainly isn’t Google or Microsoft at this point their efforts are more halfhearted me-too products, and when I say hardware, I mean in-house designed and engineered hardware not buying it from somebody else.
HalcyonicStorm 25d ago
I'm really sad that the ubuntu phone dream was never realized

mywittyname 25d ago

We can do this now, but I don't think the user experience makes it worth it compared to casting. Bandwidth limitations require lower frame rates and responsiveness, which is fine for video but bad for interactive apps (most phones are native 120+hz + VRR_. But re-encoding video is (processor & battery life) expensive and probably lower quality than the original stream. People who do this a lot probably just use a DV adapter (maybe it just works with USB-C, but I haven't tried it) for native apps, or casting for streaming video.

reenorap 25d ago

Apple does this right now. I use AirPlay to extend one laptop into an older laptop so I can have 2 displays when I’m away from home

FpUser 25d ago
There is a difference between laptop and a phone. Hopefully in the future phone can be switched to a full desktop mode and OS when it beams to large screen. Well that is unless by then we have chip in our brains or what's equally bad everything rented and leased and can be used from any physical location. Convenient but deadly.