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After four years of watching the JerryRigEverything YouTube channel snap Google's foldable phones in half at the same spot along the antenna lines, I'm looking

After four years of watching the JerryRigEverything YouTube channel snap Google's foldable phones in half at the same spot along the antenna lines, I'm looking forward to seeing how well this holds up. Something this expensive should not be that fragile year after year.

tills13 17d ago
new foldables are surprisingly strong along the spine. Not impossible to snap or damage but would support being accidentally sat on without it being catastrophic, for example.
- GeekyBear 17d ago
  > new foldables are surprisingly strong along the spine Have you seen the video in question from two weeks ago? > GOOGLE MADE A MISTAKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUT3rUZGqLA& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUT3rUZGqLA&
  - tills13 16d ago
    Google is not a serious player in this space. They make benchmark phones for their industry partners.
starky 16d ago
JerryRigEverything drives me absolutely nuts as someone that works in product design. His tests have zero basis in reality and don't actually test whether a product will survive daily use. I wouldn't take anything from his videos as an indication of whether a device is fragile.
- xxs 16d ago
  The only thing that matters about tests - if they are fair, it's up to you to decide if the tests apply to your case.
  - starky 13d ago
    How are you deciding if a test applies to your case? I can't do that from the subjective testing that he does. At best you have a comparison that Phone X is maybe stronger than Phone Y since there are no measurements taken to ensure consistency. For most people watching his videos all they are thinking is "Phone Y broke, therefore it is bad." which isn't fair. Testing products properly is HARD. Companies have entire groups of people who that is their entire job and if they do it wrong it can costs millions in returned product. At the same time, if the test is too harsh, the customer is paying extra for a product that is over-designed for conditions the product will never experience.
- il-b 16d ago
  I want to see the mechanical properties of the build. He shows exactly that.
- cromka 16d ago
  How do you suggest devices are tested objectively?
  - starky 13d ago
    You determine what specifications you want to test the product to and develop a test plan to test those specifications in a repeatable and methodical way. Ideally you use industry standard tests that allow for more direct comparisons, but if they aren't sufficient you develop your own. For example, with his bending test. You would define a standard loading method (e.g. 3 point or 4 point with specific spacing), and then apply a realistic load a phone may experience plus some safety factor with a specific loading/unloading profile (say a phone is sat on and experiences 100lbf you might test to 125lbf). Once released you inspect the phone for damage, deformation, and test functionality.

tills13 17d ago

new foldables are surprisingly strong along the spine. Not impossible to snap or damage but would support being accidentally sat on without it being catastrophic, for example.

GeekyBear 17d ago
> new foldables are surprisingly strong along the spine Have you seen the video in question from two weeks ago? > GOOGLE MADE A MISTAKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUT3rUZGqLA& https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUT3rUZGqLA&
- tills13 16d ago
  Google is not a serious player in this space. They make benchmark phones for their industry partners.

starky 16d ago

JerryRigEverything drives me absolutely nuts as someone that works in product design. His tests have zero basis in reality and don't actually test whether a product will survive daily use. I wouldn't take anything from his videos as an indication of whether a device is fragile.

xxs 16d ago
The only thing that matters about tests - if they are fair, it's up to you to decide if the tests apply to your case.
- starky 13d ago
  How are you deciding if a test applies to your case? I can't do that from the subjective testing that he does. At best you have a comparison that Phone X is maybe stronger than Phone Y since there are no measurements taken to ensure consistency. For most people watching his videos all they are thinking is "Phone Y broke, therefore it is bad." which isn't fair. Testing products properly is HARD. Companies have entire groups of people who that is their entire job and if they do it wrong it can costs millions in returned product. At the same time, if the test is too harsh, the customer is paying extra for a product that is over-designed for conditions the product will never experience.
il-b 16d ago
I want to see the mechanical properties of the build. He shows exactly that.
cromka 16d ago
How do you suggest devices are tested objectively?
- starky 13d ago
  You determine what specifications you want to test the product to and develop a test plan to test those specifications in a repeatable and methodical way. Ideally you use industry standard tests that allow for more direct comparisons, but if they aren't sufficient you develop your own. For example, with his bending test. You would define a standard loading method (e.g. 3 point or 4 point with specific spacing), and then apply a realistic load a phone may experience plus some safety factor with a specific loading/unloading profile (say a phone is sat on and experiences 100lbf you might test to 125lbf). Once released you inspect the phone for damage, deformation, and test functionality.