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Got it. For transparency, all of my writing is my own but I do use LLM editing to improve the clarity of it and read every output carefully (and fully) before p

Got it. For transparency, all of my writing is my own but I do use LLM editing to improve the clarity of it and read every output carefully (and fully) before publishing. On my own it often takes me 5-10 minutes just to figure out how to phrase something simple clearly. Like for example I don't how how to say that the amount of my own words I put into the LLM exceed (sometimes double or triple) the output that I end up posting online.

r_lee 23d ago
it's not your own if you pass it onto an LLM then it's just LLM writings prompted by you how do I know which part is made up by the LLM or it's own interpretation or it's own opinion etc? how can there be any value if I have to scrutinize every single word and decide whether it's truly what you intended to write or if it's mangling things, or if it's all just made up for engagement?
- dimitri-vs 23d ago
  I've made this exact argument to other people, so I fully understand what you're saying here and agree with it. I use the model in the same way a non-native writer would, for clarity. So it's critically important to me that there is no model interpretation or opinion added to my own. I agree that whether it still counts as "my own" is up for debate. Made more complicated by the fact that I'm mostly using voice-to-text these days, so I'm dictating more than writing.
pavel_lishin 23d ago
> On my own it often takes me 5-10 minutes just to figure out how to phrase something simple clearly. That's part of writing, and it gets faster and easier the more you do it.
- dimitri-vs 23d ago
  While I appreciate your enthusiasm (truly), after two decades of writing I think I need to consider diminishing returns. I'd rather spend the time on thinking about what to say rather than how to phrase it.
BigTTYGothGF 23d ago
> On my own it often takes me 5-10 minutes just to figure out how to phrase something simple clearly You need more practice doing it (with your brain, not the model).
- cindyllm 23d ago
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dang 23d ago
I'm afraid you're getting a bit piled on in the replies because readers feel strongly about this. But I want to add one thing re this: > I do use LLM editing What we're seeing is that LLM editing leaves nearly as many imprints on a text as outright generation, leading to two things: (1) it ends up sounding like AI, which most readers (at least on HN) don't want read, and (2) it ends up getting classified by the classifiers as genai anyhow. What we're telling people (especially non-native English speakers) is to do their own writing and editing in their own voice and not to worry too much about minor mistakes - they are rapidly becoming signs of authenticity anyhow! Just worry about major mistakes, i.e. whether your main points are true.

r_lee 23d ago

it's not your own if you pass it onto an LLM then it's just LLM writings prompted by you how do I know which part is made up by the LLM or it's own interpretation or it's own opinion etc? how can there be any value if I have to scrutinize every single word and decide whether it's truly what you intended to write or if it's mangling things, or if it's all just made up for engagement?

dimitri-vs 23d ago
I've made this exact argument to other people, so I fully understand what you're saying here and agree with it. I use the model in the same way a non-native writer would, for clarity. So it's critically important to me that there is no model interpretation or opinion added to my own. I agree that whether it still counts as "my own" is up for debate. Made more complicated by the fact that I'm mostly using voice-to-text these days, so I'm dictating more than writing.

pavel_lishin 23d ago

> On my own it often takes me 5-10 minutes just to figure out how to phrase something simple clearly. That's part of writing, and it gets faster and easier the more you do it.

dimitri-vs 23d ago
While I appreciate your enthusiasm (truly), after two decades of writing I think I need to consider diminishing returns. I'd rather spend the time on thinking about what to say rather than how to phrase it.

BigTTYGothGF 23d ago

> On my own it often takes me 5-10 minutes just to figure out how to phrase something simple clearly You need more practice doing it (with your brain, not the model).

cindyllm 23d ago
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dang 23d ago

I'm afraid you're getting a bit piled on in the replies because readers feel strongly about this. But I want to add one thing re this: > I do use LLM editing What we're seeing is that LLM editing leaves nearly as many imprints on a text as outright generation, leading to two things: (1) it ends up sounding like AI, which most readers (at least on HN) don't want read, and (2) it ends up getting classified by the classifiers as genai anyhow. What we're telling people (especially non-native English speakers) is to do their own writing and editing in their own voice and not to worry too much about minor mistakes - they are rapidly becoming signs of authenticity anyhow! Just worry about major mistakes, i.e. whether your main points are true.