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"Breakthrough" to me would be like Isaac Newton inventing calculus to calculate pi. This feels more like $12MM in tokens was spent to add another digit to pi us

"Breakthrough" to me would be like Isaac Newton inventing calculus to calculate pi. This feels more like $12MM in tokens was spent to add another digit to pi using the old way.

paxys 25d ago
Yeah solving a Millennium Problem is totally equivalent to calculating another digit of pi.
- sherburt3 25d ago
  Its called an analogy
  - JohnKemeny 25d ago
    It's one of the seven most important problems in mathematics. Pick a better analogy.
    - sherburt3 25d ago
      If anything I'm diminishing the importance of calculus and pi by comparing it to this bullshit
    - dgellow 25d ago
      If you want to be pedantic it’s one of the 7 problems a specific institute considers to be the most important in mathematics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Prize_Problems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Prize_Problems (Not that I think the comparison to pi digits make sense)
      - lackoftactics 25d ago
        are we really moving the goalpost after solving Millenium Prize Problem? Six years ago that would be something, but today let's move the goalpost
        paxys 25d ago
        Willing to bet if an AI next cures a cancer people here will go “that wasn’t the most dangerous type of cancer so it is meaningless”.
  - Bootvis 25d ago
    GP is saying it’s not a very good one.
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  - raincole 25d ago
    It's a really bad analogy then. So bad that it's hard to find an analogy describing how bad it is :)
pickleRick243 25d ago
I'm not sure if you meant it this way, but this is more an insult directed at mathematics, not openAI.
- sherburt3 25d ago
  That would be an incorrect interpretation
  - pickleRick243 25d ago
    I thought as much- my point is that as AI capabilities continue to expand, AI skeptics inadvertently and ironically end up belittling the humans they presumably hold in high esteem vs. the "cold machines" that aren't capable of true thought or creativity. When one says that solving a Millennium prize problem is not impressive, one is essentially demeaning practically all mathematicians and the field of mathematics itself.
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Kotlopou 25d ago
Inventing calculus to calculate pi? I don't think that ever happened...
- sherburt3 25d ago
  Trust me bro that's how things went down

"Breakthrough" to me would be like Isaac Newton inventing calculus to calculate pi. This feels more like $12MM in tokens was spent to add another digit to pi using the old way.

paxys 25d ago

Yeah solving a Millennium Problem is totally equivalent to calculating another digit of pi.

sherburt3 25d ago
Its called an analogy
- JohnKemeny 25d ago
  It's one of the seven most important problems in mathematics. Pick a better analogy.
  - sherburt3 25d ago
    If anything I'm diminishing the importance of calculus and pi by comparing it to this bullshit
  - dgellow 25d ago
    If you want to be pedantic it’s one of the 7 problems a specific institute considers to be the most important in mathematics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Prize_Problems https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Prize_Problems (Not that I think the comparison to pi digits make sense)
    - lackoftactics 25d ago
      are we really moving the goalpost after solving Millenium Prize Problem? Six years ago that would be something, but today let's move the goalpost
      - paxys 25d ago
        Willing to bet if an AI next cures a cancer people here will go “that wasn’t the most dangerous type of cancer so it is meaningless”.
- Bootvis 25d ago
  GP is saying it’s not a very good one.
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- raincole 25d ago
  It's a really bad analogy then. So bad that it's hard to find an analogy describing how bad it is :)

pickleRick243 25d ago

I'm not sure if you meant it this way, but this is more an insult directed at mathematics, not openAI.

sherburt3 25d ago
That would be an incorrect interpretation
- pickleRick243 25d ago
  I thought as much- my point is that as AI capabilities continue to expand, AI skeptics inadvertently and ironically end up belittling the humans they presumably hold in high esteem vs. the "cold machines" that aren't capable of true thought or creativity. When one says that solving a Millennium prize problem is not impressive, one is essentially demeaning practically all mathematicians and the field of mathematics itself.
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Kotlopou 25d ago

Inventing calculus to calculate pi? I don't think that ever happened...

sherburt3 25d ago
Trust me bro that's how things went down