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What theft? LLM output has never been copyrightable.
by paxys 26d ago
What theft? LLM output has never been copyrightable.
- _alternator_ 26d agoI'll give you the benefit of the doubt. GP was referring to the use of copyrighted material to train LLMs.
- orangecat 26d agoWhich is not "theft" according to current legal precedent, and also common sense.
- ironman1478 26d agoIt is theft under common sense.
- conz 26d agoOnly in the sense that you reading a book from the library also constitutes theft of knowledge. Does it?
- 20k 26d agoIf I stole someone's private research notes and republished them loosely in my own words, they'd correctly be pissed This was unpublished research that was stolen, and constitutes plagiarism and academic fraud by even the strictest definition
- logicchains 26d ago>This was unpublished research that was stolen, and constitutes plagiarism and academic fraud by even the strictest definition It was not stolen, it was willingly given.
- 20k 26d agoThe terms of service does not dictate what constitutes plagiarism
- paxys 26d agoThey are not “private research notes” if they are generated by an LLM.
- 20k 25d agoThe prompts they put in are the equivalent
- matt3210 26d agoHunting an animal would be considered ok by most, but scaling it to the point of damage is not ok according to most.
- haunter 26d agoDownload a book and you are a thief Download 1 million books and you are OpenAI
- Squarex 26d agoWhat? HN has always praised Library Genesis for example.
- an0malous 26d agoLibgen isn’t trying to sell you back the content for $100/month. No one would be complaining if OpenAI open sourced their models.
- Davidzheng 26d agothe second part is definitely not true
- an0malous 25d agoNo one's complaining about stolen content from any of the labs releasing open source models
- paxys 26d ago1. using copyrighted material to train LLMs is fair use, not theft 2. The topic we are dissussing concerns LLMs being trained on logs from previous LLM chats. If you're prompting a model and it spits out some unique mathematical insight, you do not have copyright on that.