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Better than all of them.

by Empro 14y ago

gabemart 14y ago
I find it hard to imagine someone in the hacker news crowd rating 8 over 7 on developer hardware. From my limited experience, the only major improvement I noticed was the improved task manager (which is really nifty). What other substantial improvements over 7 do you think Win8 provides?
- isaacwaller 14y ago
  (I am not the original poster) * improved file copy dialog, including pausing * much faster boot * improved task manager (as you said) * better multi-monitor support (I have 2 monitors) It's not much but was worth the $30 upgrade. I don't mind the new start screen but I understand that is subjective.
  - MattDL 14y ago
    Isn't the faster booting thing just exactly the same as only using hibernate on Windows 7? Granted I haven't looked into it fully but I doubt the actual cold boot speeds vary wildly between the two.
    - nwh 14y ago
      That's correct.
    - magic_haze 14y ago
      The hibernate is only for ring 0: user space still gets wiped out.
- suby 14y ago
  I think Win8 is a downgrade in almost every aspect, but it does boot faster. Granted, I think that it's doing something akin to hibernating in Windows 7 and not actually shutting down.
  - CamperBob2 14y ago
    I wonder if people are comparing the boot time of year-old Windows 7 installations to brand new Windows 8 installations. I know my SSD-based Windows 7 system could boot to the desktop in less than 10 seconds when it was new, but now that it's over a year old with dozens of additional installed programs and drivers, I'm lucky to see the desktop in less than 30 seconds.
- MetaCosm 14y ago
  As a developer, I care about some of the under the hood changes, new features and improvements: - lighter memory usage - better power management - address space randomization (forcible) - full hardware (direct-x) rendered UI - storage spaces - hyper-v - incremental file histories - mandatory DEP - system refresh Of course, at the UI level, there are various changes that are a mix of good and bad IMHO, but overall, I would say more parts of the UI suck a little less than before.

Better than all of them.

by Empro 14y ago

Better than all of them.

I find it hard to imagine someone in the hacker news crowd rating 8 over 7 on developer hardware. From my limited experience, the only major improvement I noticed was the improved task manager (which is really nifty). What other substantial improvements over 7 do you think Win8 provides?

isaacwaller 14y ago
(I am not the original poster) * improved file copy dialog, including pausing * much faster boot * improved task manager (as you said) * better multi-monitor support (I have 2 monitors) It's not much but was worth the $30 upgrade. I don't mind the new start screen but I understand that is subjective.
- MattDL 14y ago
  Isn't the faster booting thing just exactly the same as only using hibernate on Windows 7? Granted I haven't looked into it fully but I doubt the actual cold boot speeds vary wildly between the two.
  - nwh 14y ago
    That's correct.
  - magic_haze 14y ago
    The hibernate is only for ring 0: user space still gets wiped out.
suby 14y ago
I think Win8 is a downgrade in almost every aspect, but it does boot faster. Granted, I think that it's doing something akin to hibernating in Windows 7 and not actually shutting down.
- CamperBob2 14y ago
  I wonder if people are comparing the boot time of year-old Windows 7 installations to brand new Windows 8 installations. I know my SSD-based Windows 7 system could boot to the desktop in less than 10 seconds when it was new, but now that it's over a year old with dozens of additional installed programs and drivers, I'm lucky to see the desktop in less than 30 seconds.
MetaCosm 14y ago
As a developer, I care about some of the under the hood changes, new features and improvements: - lighter memory usage - better power management - address space randomization (forcible) - full hardware (direct-x) rendered UI - storage spaces - hyper-v - incremental file histories - mandatory DEP - system refresh Of course, at the UI level, there are various changes that are a mix of good and bad IMHO, but overall, I would say more parts of the UI suck a little less than before.